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Old 22-04-2024, 10:43 PM   #63
Franco Cozzo
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Default Re: Why so few old Falcons remaining compared to Commodores?

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Originally Posted by Dr Terry View Post
Not so !

While Earlier Commodores were European based to varying degrees, by the time you get to VE, the body/chassis is 100% Aussie designed & built. The drivetrains are mostly US units. I doubt that you would find anything Euro in a VE or VF.

Much like the Falcon, early ones were very US-based Then less so by XA & even less so by XF. EA onwards doesn't have much US left in in them. AU onwards nothing left.

Also all Holden build figures include all overseas built units, because they were CKD packs. The packs were made here then exported & they knew the exact numbers.

Dr Terry
The pre-VE Commodore is on the GM V series platform, Opel Omega

For the VN the platform was stretched and widened, bigger engines put in to suit our market and compete with the Falcon as a 'full sized' car.

VE Onwards is an all Australian design.

The benefit of the Commodore using drivelines and electronics from GM is that all the diagnostics are well developed on the automotive aftermarket because of the US, the Commodore got OBDII and the GM implementation of it, you can read a surprising amount of data and get codes directly from the ECU/BCM and ABS module on my VSII Caprice with a modern scan tool, it will give you live data no dramas.



Thats a live data readout from my Caprice when it had its factory ECU - thats amazing for a car from the mid 1990s with microwave spec electronics.

The Falcon is an electronic orphan, unique to Australia/NZ, so the aftermarket diagnostics are well and truly lacking in comparison to what you can do to Commodores with a scan tool in the workshop, all the way right back to a VS.

The AU Falcon adopted the OBDII plug but had its own unique protocol.

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