Question about XR's

foxtrot · 21-08-2006, 05:10 PM

Hi Guys

As far as I knew all XR's were "Tickford enhanced' engines.
I was told when I bought my XR from the dealer it's not a Tickford engine.

The plate under the bonnet says.. this car has the following tickford enhancements:
Bodykit

Does this mean my car is not the 164kw engine.. only a 157kw standard au falcon motor?

If so why am i paying Insurance for a high performance car if its just a falcon with a tickford body kit?

and also.. why the heck did i pay over $11,000 for it if it's not the performance engine.

Fill me in!

Futura01 · 21-08-2006, 05:14 PM

All xr6 and xr8 falcons are tickford enhanced !! so i am assuming it's an xr6 and yes should be a tickford non vct or vct powerplant!!!!
Does it have the red cover ontop

foxtrot · 21-08-2006, 05:26 PM

Red Rocker Cover, but where does the T symbol go? Im guessing it doesn't have one or it's under the cover thing. Why does the plate not say the engine is tickford enhanced though? The dealer said its NOT a tickford motor.. ?? Oh and it's not VCT

TheSneakiness · 21-08-2006, 05:27 PM

If I were you, I'd be ringing Ford with your VIN so they can look it up and tell you how it was sold from factory.

foxtrot · 21-08-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AUII_SE_Ute

If I were you, I'd be ringing Ford with your VIN so they can look it up and tell you how it was sold from factory.

Can I do this online anywhere?

foxtrot · 21-08-2006, 05:29 PM

As in the plate SHOULD say

bla bla following tickford enhancements:
Bodykit
Engine

But it only says Bodykit?
And im going off what the dealer said

If I can find where the T symbol is i can kind of verify?

Dazza XLT · 21-08-2006, 05:35 PM

From memory, its called "My Ford" Online service for finding Info on your vehlicle when it rolled out of the factory.
I can't seem to find a link anywhere on the Ford website though.

S3SR · 21-08-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Darran

From memory, its called "My Ford" Online service for finding Info on your vehlicle when it rolled out of the factory.
I can't seem to find a link anywhere on the Ford website though.

yeah your right its www.myford.com.au but its not available at the moment and hasnt been for ages..well since i joined here

foxtrot good luck with the car

foxtrot · 21-08-2006, 05:36 PM

Well can anyone else tell me that has an AU XR what there tickford plates say? Also are your rocker covers all red? And lastly been an XR shouldn't it have a tickford snorkle rather than the standard air intake snorkle?

Any other XR owners out there should be able to help me

Twisted · 21-08-2006, 06:15 PM

Post some pics of the engine bay if you can mate.

TwistedEL · 21-08-2006, 06:37 PM

There should be a T stamped on the front of the head just below the rocker cover

8pAc · 21-08-2006, 07:03 PM

Mine just has the Momo gear listed and i have a AUXR8 220, definately has the 220 engine, rebel kit etc but plate only says momo wheel and momo shifter.

loxxr6 · 21-08-2006, 07:13 PM

My Tickford stamp plate thingy just says Bodykit and Rims from memory. I don't recall the engine being recorded on the Tickford plate....

Casper · 21-08-2006, 07:23 PM

ok, heres the rub. The "plate" only applys to extra's. In fact my XR6VCT doesnt even have one as it was ordered without any extras like 17" rims or bodykit.

ALL XR6 AU's have the 164kw engine as standard or the 172kw VCT as standard so it will not appear on the plate at all. Just like the Tickford suspension, adaptashift auto and Tickford "Twin light" nosecone. None appear on the "plate" as all are standard on the car.

Bucknaked · 21-08-2006, 07:32 PM

I don't have it on my plate. I have factory options, so i have a plate

AU3 HERROD XR8 · 21-08-2006, 08:50 PM

i agree with casper, because in the end the end the car IS an XR6 so its not mentioned on the Tickford Enhanced plate, my car is Herrod Enhanced and it doesn't mention the 290kW, it says its got the bodykit and etc..

b2tf · 21-08-2006, 08:57 PM

Mine's weird - its got 3 plates. One from dealer, one from Tickford and one from Herrod. I always found it odd that Tickford dont list the engine type, the diff etc because I think it would be a better, more accurate record of what makes it an XR if they did.

sickxr · 21-08-2006, 09:04 PM

Mine doesnt even have the plate - yet it has 17" tickford rims. So they must have been fitted later?

JC · 21-08-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

Does this mean my car is not the 164kw engine.. only a 157kw standard au falcon motor?

The good news - it is the 164kw engine. the bad news? The only difference is a freer exhaust, red rocker cover and larger valves, IIRC. Everything else is exactly the same as you would find on any Taxi Spec falcon.

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Originally Posted by foxtrot

If so why am i paying Insurance for a high performance car if its just a falcon with a tickford body kit?

Because they can get away with charging it

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxtrot

and also.. why the heck did i pay over $11,000 for it if it's not the performance engine.

That's something only you can answer. In a lot of ways, you would have been better off buying a Forte and working the motor, or getting a V8, but then you would miss out on owning a genuine XR - enhanced by Tickford (!).

8pAc · 21-08-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

The good news - it is the 164kw engine. the bad news? The only difference is a freer exhaust, red rocker cover and larger valves, IIRC. Everything else is exactly the same as you would find on any Taxi Spec falcon.

Because they can get away with charging it

That's something only you can answer. In a lot of ways, you would have been better off buying a Forte and working the motor, or getting a V8, but then you would miss out on owning a genuine XR - enhanced by Tickford (!).

On an e series the xr6 got bigger exhaust valves, on au that xr valve combo became standard so au xr6 = better exhaust and better ecu tune?

Casper · 21-08-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 8pAc

On an e series the xr6 got bigger exhaust valves, on au that xr valve combo became standard so au xr6 = better exhaust and better ecu tune?

actually the XR6 HP exhaust was identical to a Forte's from headers to tip. No difference at all. The bottom end was identical too. The XR engine mods were restricted to valves and a slightly different cam on the HP's. Notably though the ECU was very different, especially for the auto's (as the edit has come to prove)

8pAc · 21-08-2006, 09:11 PM

17 inch rims were standard so no mention of those either.

sickxr · 22-08-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 8pAc

17 inch rims were standard so no mention of those either.

Nah the AU2 XR6 came standard with 16" wheels.

AU3 HERROD XR8 · 21-08-2006, 09:14 PM

mine has 3 plates aswell with Herrd Tickford and Ford

b2tf · 21-08-2006, 09:40 PM

So just out of curiosity, what were the options that were possible to have listed on the plate? Bodykit, MOMO Gear, Suspension on non-XR models - what else?

Duffman · 21-08-2006, 10:19 PM

I remember when the myford.com.au site was up I got the pdf version of the au2 owners manual for fortes, not sure if its of any use to anyone?

8pAc · 21-08-2006, 10:31 PM

Whoops my bad, arent the valves the same though on au 6 xr6hp and vct? i didnt think there was any difference in the heads at all in au?

Futura01 · 22-08-2006, 09:38 AM

curious as well ??

mr_xr8 · 22-08-2006, 11:24 AM

mine has bodykit, sunroof and 17inch wheels listed on the tickford plate

TCK-098 · 22-08-2006, 04:16 PM

My AU is a Fairmont ghia with the Tickford VCT standard "168kw" the only differance between this and the XR range is the exhaust thats why the XR's have 172kw.

The car is Also optioned with the Tickford Supension-3.45 diff but the only thing between mine and a XR is adaptive shift,body kit and the dashboard cluster and controls.

The tickford engines are easier to modify too as they dont need to be tinkered as much as they have a nice amount of power standard.