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It seems lately that every time I drive at night, I see a motorist without their headlights on. Either that, or they only have those smaller fog light style ones turned on giving them the impression they do have their headlights on. I stopped flashing them with my hi beams a long time ago. It rarely works it seems, and just confuses them more. The cars my wife and I drive require the operator to manually turn the headlights on and off. An alarm sounds if you take the keys out with lights on, that's the extent of the technology. Do newer cars not turn lights off & on with sensors?
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The other night I followed a near-new X5 through the M5 tunnel, and it wasn't until KIng Georges Road he finally realised he didn't have his lights on.
The cluster - being some sort of LCD display was the only thing lit up in the vehicle. As you come out of the tunnel, there's not a lot of light - and it's almost pitch black as you get to the 100 signs near K/G rd. It was only by then he'd realised. I was beside him when he finally switched them on, and the amibient lighting lit up the cabin like a christmas tree. Surely even that would have been noticeable? And why doesn't the X5 have auto lights? Even an 11 year old base model VE Commodore has auto lights that you have to physically disable (and they revert to auto every ignition cycle). The local Fords, and many Toyotas, have given people the switched option for auto lights for over a decade. |
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New displays also take away the indicator that the lights need to be on. When my car gets serviced they always turn off the autolights, gets me every time.
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Oh yeah, the list of driver aids & safety options on these babies is endless. High tech all the way. ![]() Last edited by au350hp; 14-02-2018 at 11:19 AM. |
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Not only the ones who drive with their lights off in built-up areas at night, but more of the ones who drive with fog lights and light bars on in country areas, oblivious to the problems they are causing to oncoming cars.
This is another example of tech taking over basic function requirements of the driver. I don’t use auto headlight setting …… I was born with the amazing ability to know if it was daylight or dark. |
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My dash speedo is lit at all times and when you put the lights on the speedo lights dim by half.
If you leave the auto lights on they will come on in a tunnel day or night. Maybe people are leaving their fairy lights on 24/7 and just forget. |
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I think the separation of the lighting system between the dashboard and the external lighting in later model cars has caused the problem, where the driver thinks their lights are on because the dash lights are on..
Why don't road safety authorities make it mandatory to at least have a warning system to alert the driver that the headlights are not on, or better still turn them on automatically when the engine is on, regardless of the light switch position? Such a basic and simple safety requirement that has seemed to have got lost somewhere in the world of high tech 'safety' features that are currently being heavily promoted. |
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The thing that annoys me most is poorly adjusted headlights and drivers that leave their foglights/driving lights on when you're passing them. There seem to be a lot of knobheads driving around in modern mid-sized SUV type things that don't seem to realise they're not supposed to drive with foglights on when it isn't foggy.
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You want to try and blind me with glare...here, cop this! I'm so over it I don't care anymore, if they have no respect for their fellow travellers then they suffer the consequences. Same with those who convert to bright globes or hid's in normal housings. They wear it too. Selfish, nothing more. Wapol had a blitz on foglights a couple of years ago and next day the talkback radio lit up with complaints about getting tickets. Too stupid to understand it's illegal. I wish they would do it again.
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I know of only 2 people pulled up about it - one was a warning at an RBT, and the other was a fine (if he wasn't a smart-*** he probably would have escaped with a warning). But it's pretty sad when even some of the local cop cars drive around with them on. Not a good example to others doing the wrong thing. |
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![]() They never used to bother me much until one night when I was driving a hire car on the mornington peninsula in Melbourne. I was nearly cleaned up at a roundabout when a car had it's foggies on and it obscured his indicator. Have a look next time you know a car is in that configuration, the indicators essentially become invisible. Then there's the nuff-nuffs who refuse to dip their high beams, this is becoming more prevalent here. In the bush at night it's just general glare that is much worse without ambient lighting to tame it.
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300W Osram spot/spread LED light bar in grill, 2x100 watt road side illumination (for the roos) and 2x 100W Roof lights, all on separate switches, but I can set them so that I can flick my high beam and all will come on, night instantly turns to day ![]() Never met my match yet, with these idiots driving around with fog lights or high beams on, even road trains bow down to me ![]()
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my old val was a four headlight setup .... 130 outers, 120 inners, 100 driving x 2 .... unless i changed the inners to 150. low was 90. now i have to figure out how to have the same in a BA/BF.. |
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And whilst I am whinging, I live a street down from a road that has bus services and every so & so takes up every bit of a kerb in the name of not walking an extra few meters by parking safely a little further away. Picture trying to turn out of a street where you are facing uphill at a T intersection and the cars are parked so close to both sides of the kerb corner, you have to nose out into the middle of the road blindly, an inch at a time in case of a speeding motorist or somebody sending a txt comes through, as they would not be expecting a driver to be hindered by parked cars. There used to be parking on both sides of the street until a ZG Fairlane took out a Domino's Pizza 4cyl, but they can still park on one side. Maybe I should 'move' a No Standing sign.... |
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Fog lights A driver is only permitted to use fog lights if driving in fog, mist or other atmospheric condition that restricts visibility. http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/...ts-general.pdf Rule 218-1 (a) Use fog light when not permitted 2 $110 Rule 218-1 (b) Unlawful use of spot/search lamp 2 $110 Rule 218-1 (c) Unlawful use of additional headlamps 2 $110 Rule 218-1 (e) Use other lights not as prescribed 2 $110
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Yep. Although these days with LED's it's often hard to distinguish between 'fog lights' and overly bright parkers.
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Yes interesting one: In your case SA has the highest fine
https://www.motoring.com.au/when-sho...lights-108269/ Personally they don't bother me, factory fitting ones that is. This law was probably designed when people were fitting 100W aftermarket lights. plus I have anti glare rear view mirror
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Drivers are getting dumber and lazy.
I too have stopped flashing people. It is so simple yet they can't/don't do it. It is kind of scary
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it's probably always foggy inside their heads
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Mine is always set to auto. That way, people don't have to remember to turn them on. Most modern cars have automatic headlights, yet it beggars belief that people still "forget" to turn them on. Just leave them on auto. Done.
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The led driving lights (not fog lights) come on when ever the car is on. Maybe this makes them think there head lights are on when in actual fact there not.
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These idiots driving with fog lights only on can at least see 3 metres in front of their car. Recently I saw the dumbest driver I have ever seen, they were halfway between Sydney and Newcastle on the M1 at midnight with no lights on doing 100 in the 110 zone. Not a street light in sight yet all they had on was the Day Running Lights in their brand new looking Mazda 3. I was approaching from behind with my high beam on and only realized I was following someone from a distance when my high beam started to light up the rear of their car. Flashed my light about 10 times at them and they didn't turn theirs on. After passing them I even quickly switched my headlights off and on again. When my lights were off I could barley see anything with my LED running lights on. No idea how they managed to drive on the freeway at any speed with no lights. |
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Tried out my fog lights this morning, it was actually pretty thick and the XR50 is the first car I've had thats got them so what the hell... meh not overly impressed I'll just stick with headlights. Can't understand why people use them fog or not.
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I was ****ed as a fart once pulling out of a bottle o and the coppers told me to turn my lights on. I was also ****ed as a fart as I drove past a breathalyser on the opposite side of the road while I went to the servo with no licence for sigs. On my way back I totally forgot they were there and got waved through. They were the times I didn't get caught. Im glad to say after a few convictions, I have learnt my lesson and don't drink and drive ever anymore.
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Hi,
Every time I drive at night here in Perth I experience other cars with faulty or incorrectly adjusted headlights. The percentage is alarmingly high, and the only thing currently improving it seems to be new car sales (and older cars coming off the road). WA is without scheduled vehicle inspections, and that definitively does not help the situation. The only thing I can think of to improve this would be for DOT to make it mandatory by regulations that all licenced mechanics and workshops should also check headlight adjustments while doing any other work, such as oil changes and tyre fitting. If WA had vehicle inspections this would have corrected some of it, then at least every few years all cars would have been up to standard. Currently I would estimate that at least every 1 of 5 vehicles in Perth are having faults with their lighting in one way or the other. Incorrect usage such as having fog lights on at all times is also annoying, but should be a matter for the traffic police to pull over and have a chat with them. Cheers, |
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