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Brad
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Sad day for NZ as all 29 trap miners were killed due to a second massive explosion.
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Sad sad day for the families of these workers, my heart goes out to them all. Such a tragedy
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At this stage it is only "thought" that the miners have been killed - I'm still holding out hope.
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When did the 2nd explosion happen ... I saw something quickly about it this morning when i got into work ... but haven't had a chance to keep up with the news of it all.
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Absolutely tragic news
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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I think 2:45pm local time.
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hate to be the one to post this
All miners dead after second explosion: police Quote:
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One of them, Willy Joynson, was a local up here.
I used to play football with and against him at school. It really is a small world. Edit: I misread the thread. All my hopes that they all get out alive. |
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Join Date: May 2005
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RIP to the miners....
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let it burn
Join Date: Feb 2006
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It doesnt look good. Listening to a mine expert he was saying they would have died before the blast because of the high CO2 readings. This second blast was reported to be much larger than the first. I noticed on the footage that the massive air system was laying on the ground, ripped from its mounts. The mayor mentioned that it blew the top off, so Im assuming thats what he meant.
The families must be going through hell, swinging between clinging to an irrational hope, and trying to accept what deep down they already know. Tragic just doesnt seem to say it. |
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Sad very sad.. After other miners have survived in other parts of the world..
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Very sad day, just happened to walk out of a training seminar at the time the news broke, gave me shivers.
Very very sad, RIP
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yea my cousin died,
he was 23 |
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And to the rest of the families, work colleagues and others involved, my family sends all their sympathies and thoughts........
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Seems is these guys cannot be rescued it will be an even more painfull expierance not knowing the outcome for the friends and families
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my family passes on our condolences to you and your family may he rest in peace Jason & Helen
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Sorry to hear that 99AUXR....My thoughts are with you, your family and my other fellow Kiwis back home during this terrible time in our history.
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Sorry to hear mate, thoughts are with you and your family.
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99AUXR, very sorry to hear of your cousin. My thoughts to you and your family. One of the 2 aussie miners had worked with one of the guys I work with now.
I have only recently started working at an underground coal mine doing weekend maintenance, and the mood is a very sombre one. I'm a relative noob working in the pit, but the first thing I noticed when I started it is one big family down there, one of the first things a workmate said to me was "we all look out for each other down here". Another thing I have learned very quickly, they ARE inherently extremely dangerous places to be at the best of times, methane goes hand in hand with underground coal mines, along with CO, CO2 and a heap of other nastys. One needs to understand in so called "gassy mines", which I believe this one was, and the one I work at is also, methane literally vents from the coal. If there is water on the ground, which there is near the face due to the cutting process, it bubbles out of the ground. I also feel for the hard time the rescuers have been getting due to not going in there. People must realise there was a very good reason they didn't go in. I bet there were a lot of guys willing to go in anyway and risk their lives, but someone has to give them the go ahead, it's a big call sending in guys you know are probably not going to get back out at all, let alone with a successful rescue. It wasn't a simple case of just racing in and dragging them out. This was not a collapse like the Chillean one where "all" they had to do was dig them out. That was simply rock and dirt between them and outside world. Here was a mine that had no ventilation due to the first explosion, building methane levels that were off the clock, (it only takes 2.5% methane concentration to have an explosive environment) and every thing inside that mine is basically a fuel ready to ignite. The walls, roof, and floor is all coal. The biggest fear they had was a hot spot of coal from the first explosion sitting there just waiting for the right concentration of gasses to ignite......which is what I assume has happened to cause the second fire. As bad as it is to lose 29 good men, how worse would it also be to lose another group of rescuers when in all reality, the miners highly likely had already succumbed to high CO and methane. One can have small comfort in that hopefully the guys went to sleep due to asphyxiation. Sorry for my rant, but this has really hit home, and listening to journos on the TV, who have no idea whinging that they didn't go straight in shows they have absolutely no idea of the environment of what a working coal mine is like, let alone one that has had a huge explosion put through it. RIP guys. |
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Definately not a rant, this is a very good post.
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My thoughts are with the families that are suffering tonight. I can only hope that not all is lost.
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they said there was a 17 yo and it was his first trip down there its so sad.
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I can't even start to imagine what the families are going through right now. My thoughts are with all the families, RIP.
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Having a beer for these guys tonight.. words cant describe working underground its another world with plenty ready to grab you.. thoughts for all the families and loved ones.. Rest easy brothers.
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Until the bodies of the miners are found I will never give up hope. For every person that believes in their hearts that these miners are dead then they may as well be. They are obviously already being forgotten about if people have given up on their lives. I can only wish the way I feel on other people to not give up.
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GTP, I know what you are saying, really I do, but that's a bit harsh. These blokes have been through 2 explosions, and day after day of continuous exposure to toxic gas. The two guys who escaped were blown 15 odd meters and they were more than a KM away from the main explosion further in. They weren't simply trapped in an underground cave like the Chillian guys. They aren't in an area that has fresh air. When they drilled through the other day they were blasted with a pressure burst of methane gas and a bag of other nasty gasses. Whilst you can never give up hope, in reality, people just can't survive in conditions like that for even a few hours, let alone days on end. I only hope some good comes of this in either safety reviews, redesigns of certain things or whatever, but still the job is what it is, a bloody dangerous one. |
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let it burn
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