Petrol Price crisis......

[Nafe]

I would simply drive my v8 less and my 4 cylinder more. But if went silly high I would drive my 4 cylinder less too. Might even encourage my to ride a push bike. If that happens it could be compared to smokes going up! Smokes go up quit = better health! Petrol goes up cycle = health better! We might all end up like Asia.. on bikes.

[Venomous1]

As I have no car debt it would need to reach $5 a litre before I stop using my V8.

[GO FURTHER]

What gets me is those people who buy fuel efficient cars to save money...

Then go and buy bottled water which costs more than a litre of petrol.

For God's sake, at least here in Melbourne, we have what is probably the best tap drinking water in the world... Its not Bali or Africa.

[LTDHO]

Anyone know what a barrel of crude is worth today compared to the last 5 years?

[Mulga]

Based on info from Macrotrends, West Texas Intermediate (WTI) was US110.21 a barrel five years ago....today its trading at US71.99.

The AUD was trading at around 92 cents at that time.

[Fed]

I always get $50 worth of fuel so I don't care what it costs.

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by Fed

I always get $50 worth of fuel so I don't care what it costs.

I always fill up when I have half a tank left... That way I always have half a tank in reserve.

Done this ever since there were petrol strikes in Victoria years ago, and we had petrol rationing imposed, and never forgot the long line of cars at the petrol stations.

[Dodge]

a group of people on facebook have set up a fuel strike day 26th oct but now have started a 1 week boycott on bp and shell as of today 1st oct to 7th , please do your best to support the group and make others aware

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by Dodge

a group of people on facebook have set up a fuel strike day 26th oct but now have started a 1 week boycott on bp and shell as of today 1st oct to 7th , please do your best to support the group and make others aware

Surely you are not serious?

[data_mine]

Originally Posted by Dodge

a group of people on facebook have set up a fuel strike day 26th oct but now have started a 1 week boycott on bp and shell as of today 1st oct to 7th , please do your best to support the group and make others aware

so 5 noobs on failbook don't buy fuel for a day or week. the servos won't even notice.

even if it was 5000 noobs on failbook, they wouldn't notic the change to their bottom line for the week.

or they've seen the 'movement' on failbook, and will just jack up the prices on the day after when all the noobs are desperate for fuel. that'll show them.

destined to be an epic fail.

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by data_mine

so 5 noobs on failbook don't buy fuel for a day or week. the servos won't even notice.

even if it was 5000 noobs on failbook, they wouldn't notic the change to their bottom line for the week.

or they've seen the 'movement' on failbook, and will just jack up the prices on the day after when all the noobs are desperate for fuel. that'll show them.

destined to be an epic fail.

In Canberra we had ACT fuel watch on Facebook, you may remember it. Most people were filling up at Costco and united in Fyshwick as part of the campaign. It must have peed the big players off as BP and Shell got their lawyers in and the Facebook page got shut down. The pages mods got taken to court as well, it was huge in the papers

Our fuel went down 15 cents on average in that period. As soon as the FB page went inactive the prices went back up.

It does make a difference if enough people jump on board.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

In Canberra we had ACT fuel watch on Facebook, you may remember it. Most people were filling up at Costco and united in Fyshwick as part of the campaign. It must have peed the big players off as BP and Shell got their lawyers in and the Facebook page got shut down. The pages mods got taken to court as well, it was huge in the papers

Our fuel went down 15 cents on average in that period. As soon as the FB page went inactive the prices went back up.

It does make a difference if enough people jump on board.

Not sure how they can do that as the NSW Gov has their own.

https://www.fuelcheck.nsw.gov.au/app

[data_mine]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

In Canberra we had ACT fuel watch on Facebook, you may remember it. Most people were filling up at Costco and united in Fyshwick as part of the campaign. It must have peed the big players off as BP and Shell got their lawyers in and the Facebook page got shut down. The pages mods got taken to court as well, it was huge in the papers

Our fuel went down 15 cents on average in that period. As soon as the FB page went inactive the prices went back up.

It does make a difference if enough people jump on board.

FuelWatch was actually useful - letting people know where the best prices were, not a bunch of noobs going all 'stick it to the man' to buy fuel for a week. that'll never work.

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Not sure how they can do that as the NSW Gov has their own.

https://www.fuelcheck.nsw.gov.au/app

NSW and WA (that I know of) are government services, not so easy to sue the government. The ACT ones was just a facebook page/group so easy to target and it folded faster than superman on laundry day. Not that I agree with the allegations at all, how can sharing public information (fuel prices) be something to sue over. if the expensive servos didn't want to lose business they should've been more competitive.

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by data_mine

FuelWatch was actually useful - letting people know where the best prices were, not a bunch of noobs going all 'stick it to the man' to buy fuel for a week. that'll never work.


NSW and WA (that I know of) are government services, not so easy to sue the government. The ACT ones was just a facebook page/group so easy to target and it folded faster than superman on laundry day. Not that I agree with the allegations at all, how can sharing public information (fuel prices) be something to sue over. if the expensive servos didn't want to lose business they should've been more competitive.

The thing is it worked, our fuel prices took a dive and were in line with Sydney prices, as soon as the page went inactive, BAM fuel prices 15-20 cents more expensive again. Their excuse here is the freight cost, freight cost to Canberra should only be an extra 1cent a litre according to ACCC, but no one will do anything about it.

[arronm]

Originally Posted by Dodge

a group of people on facebook have set up a fuel strike day 26th oct but now have started a 1 week boycott on bp and shell as of today 1st oct to 7th , please do your best to support the group and make others aware

Why would I do that, BP and Shell have the highest quality of 98 fuel.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by arronm

Why would I do that, BP and Shell have the highest quality of 98 fuel.

BP,Shell & Caltex come out of the same refinery in Victoria.BP just just seems to bang on the loudest about their fuels.There is a much of a muchness between all of them.(Fact) Marketing is a pretty powerful tool.

[GO FURTHER]

Originally Posted by hackney

BP,Shell & Caltex come out of the same refinery in Victoria.BP just just seems to bang on the loudest about their fuels.There is a much of a muchness between all of them.(Fact) Marketing is a pretty powerful tool.

The additive packages are different though, and added when the tankers fill up.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by GO FURTHER

The additive packages are different though, and added when the tankers fill up.

Yes,I know that,but @ then end of the day,it’s pretty much the same stuff.I have used most brands,& cannot dectect any difference.Our fuels in this country are nowhere near as good as Europe or the US.Cheers.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by arronm

Why would I do that, BP and Shell have the highest quality of 98 fuel.

Well they don’t,they are all very,very similar.Mobil is the same as the others,I use BP,Shell,Caltex & currently Mobil(all 98) absolutely no difference whatsoever.Cheers

[arronm]

Originally Posted by hackney

Well they don’t,they are all very,very similar.Mobil is the same as the others,I use BP,Shell,Caltex & currently Mobil(all 98) absolutely no difference whatsoever.Cheers

Shell 98 in perth is imported. BP 98 comes from the refinery 20 mins from my house.

The rest of the in 98 in Perth I have no idea so I dont buy it.

All my cars are tuned for E85 or 98. Iam not risking buying cheap imported crap fuel from a small independent.

[Sprintey]

Arron how do you find the E85 tunes and is there anywhere in Perth that retails it? Do you have any I6's on E85?

[mick taylor]

Originally Posted by hackney

Well they don’t,they are all very,very similar.Mobil is the same as the others,I use BP,Shell,Caltex & currently Mobil(all 98) absolutely no difference whatsoever.Cheers

I will not use Caltex or any of they supply woolys, 7 /11, mobil in SEQ it's the same crap regardless 91, 95, 98 but for there E10 that is good.
From 1995 I have found this out and it's still the same now, I can even tell if a car is using there crap fuel.
A mate was showing me his new 375KW VF SSV power and I said you are using one of them crap fuels and he said how do you know, well I can hear that crappy sound, it's something like a muffled burble type of slight missing sound, it took even me some years to notice this sound, but now I am awake to it I can detect it directly now and old mate got his nose out of joint real badly because he thought it went well, but I said it did not really impress me for 375KW, some months later he turned up again and it really did go well and I said that's not one of the fuels that I bag and he said it was not and he was happy. not to mention he can only use 98 fuel in it.

I go see mates 400km away and when coming home I would overtake a few cars and think this is not really going that well, thing is up there is mainly that crap stations, so I made sure I only put BP or Shell in it from then and then I was really impressed overtaking, I was like f this goes !

If some one puts Caltex type crap in my car I know it, but for the E10.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by mick taylor

I will not use Caltex or any of they supply woolys, 7 /11, mobil in SEQ it's the same crap regardless 91, 95, 98 but for there E10 that is good.
From 1995 I have found this out and it's still the same now, I can even tell if a car is using there crap fuel.
A mate was showing me his new 375KW VF SSV power and I said you are using one of them crap fuels and he said how do you know, well I can hear that crappy sound, it's something like a muffled burble type of slight missing sound, it took even me some years to notice this sound, but now I am awake to it I can detect it directly now and old mate got his nose out of joint real badly because he thought it went well, but I said it did not really impress me for 375KW, some months later he turned up again and it really did go well and I said that's not one of the fuels that I bag and he said it was not and he was happy. not to mention he can only use 98 fuel in it.

I go see mates 400km away and when coming home I would overtake a few cars and think this is not really going that well, thing is up there is mainly that crap stations, so I made sure I only put BP or Shell in it from then and then I was really impressed overtaking, I was like f this goes !

If some one puts Caltex type crap in my car I know it, but for the E10.

We will just disagree,to disagree,OK?

[MITCHAY]

I thought fuel was getting a bit steep for a few months now as it were a few years ago but I paid $1.85 (BP 98) for this last tank in Braddon which is in Canberra CBD. I certainly remember paying $1.60-$1.70 but never this much.

Lucky for me, most of my driving is 80-100km/h with little stop/start so economy is pretty decent.

The only way to hit the companies is to actually reduce your fuel usage. Simply putting it off won't make a damn difference, they know you have to fill up at some point

[hackney]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I thought fuel was getting a bit steep for a few months now as it were a few years ago but I paid $1.85 (BP 98) for this last tank in Braddon which is in Canberra CBD. I certainly remember paying $1.60-$1.70 but never this much.

Lucky for me, most of my driving is 80-100km/h with little stop/start so economy is pretty decent.

The only way to hit the companies is to actually reduce your fuel usage. Simply putting it off won't make a damn difference, they know you have to fill up at some point

Costing me $1.74 @ the moment for Mobil 98,in my local town just outside Canberra.Caltex up the street is $1.80.Cheers

[theBlake]

Just always buy petrol at the bottom of the fuel cycle, and also use the 7/11 app to lock in another 7 days once prices shoot up ~30-40 cents Then for many people, you wont need petrol until it goes near bottom again.

I have been doing this for years, most I have ever paid is about 10c over the bottom, and that was just once. (i also fill use a 20L jerry)

[arronm]

United E85 in Perth . 6 outlets. For turbo barra, adds heaps of power . I wouldn't bother with an N/A 6 or 8.

[kmav23]

Those that hate fuel prices will be able to purchase electric cars in the next few years as they come down in price.

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by kmav23

Those that hate fuel prices will be able to purchase electric cars in the next few years as they come down in price.

It's not the fuel prices that annoy me, it's knowing i'm getting ripped off.

But big business rules the world so nothing we can do about it.

[GO FURTHER]

We might be concerned about what we are now paying per litre of petrol, but European drivers have been paying more than that for almost a decade.

Australia is still the 4th cheapest for petrol among the 33 countries in the OECD and the 6th for diesel and that’s largely due to relatively low fuel taxes.

The Federal Government’s take of 41.2 cents in the dollar for fuel excise plus 10% GST seems exorbitant but it’s not as high as most other countries in the OECD.