Major Ford announcement - Page 14

KIWI-1 · 23-05-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GT-spec15

My understanding is that manufacturers have to provide parts support for 10 years or thereabouts. After that supplies will dwindle over time.

I'm not sure what happens if an operation actually shuts down though, so good question.

Not sure it's 10 years - try buying a BA diff oil seal...
Possibly irrelevant anyway as so many parts are sourced from overseas now anyway?

james22 · 23-05-2013, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lalo1003

Quick question, sorry if I sound like a newb but I'm new to this. I'm only 19 and I bought a second hand FG at the start of the year from a dealership.

When I purchased it I was told about the AHG 5year warranty plan. I agreed to it which added about $1700 to my finance.

If Ford is ceasing production of the Falcon by 2016 will they still honour their warranties beyond 2016?

Another one I'm curious about, what will happen with spare parts etc? Say 2017 I need a new diff or gear box whatever, will Ford still supply new spare parts as usual?

Thanks,
Luis

Ford stated that warranty's will not be affected and they will continue to service and warrant vehicles up to 2026. Which will be the minimum 10 year term required after the 2016 models

lalo1003 · 23-05-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by james22

Ford stated that warranty's will not be affected and they will continue to service and warrant vehicles up to 2026. Which will be the minimum 10 year term required after the 2016 models

That's a relief to hear that, thanks for your reply.

Thanks,
Luis

Mighty Reds · 23-05-2013, 03:14 PM

Lets be annoyed about the decision today but also thankful that we got to enjoy what made the Falcon great for over 50 years.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Reds

Lets be annoyed about the decision today but also thankful that we got to enjoy what made the Falcon great for over 50 years.

Absolutely.

Local auto manufacture was a massive part of building this country over the past 50 years and more. My grandfather walked off the boat from Greece in 1962 and onto the Holden production line. He talks about it with such passion to this day - it supported his family for a long time.

buddy92 · 23-05-2013, 03:17 PM

Im going to have to keep mine forever.

My FG XR6 is my first ever car I've owned. I feel proud to have this as my first car. I've not been around the "car" era long ( 3 years ) but it's sad considering I grew up in Fords, driving my brothers EL around and, Dads XR8. Good times.

:(

Trump · 23-05-2013, 03:17 PM

An interesting commentary in The Age:

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/why...523-2k2n4.html

rancidpunx · 23-05-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

An interesting commentary in The Age:

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/why...523-2k2n4.html

Seriously? The ad before the video for me was a bloody Kia

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 03:23 PM

Ford dealers have a very bright future.

It's seems cruel to say it...but they will do better without the Falcon once a medium-large replacement is sourced. I have spent a lot of time in USA over the past three years, and the current Explorer/Taurus are fantastic cars.

Taurus may need a different badge if it was ever sold here though...!!

**EASYBOSS** · 23-05-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GT-spec15

and the current Explorer/Taurus are fantastic cars.

Having also spent 50% of the last 5 years in the US, I do have to agree, got to love rental Fords

4stanger · 23-05-2013, 03:24 PM

Sad day,
sad week for me, the old family dog passed away earlier this week :(
Isn't Ford continuing with engineering and R & D in this country?
I will continue to support Ford into the future whether it is a vehicle purchase that suits my needs or buying parts and service for my current and future Fords.
What would the chances be for a 2016 GTHO Falcon to finish off with!

xisled · 23-05-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnaldo

Sad day,
sad week for me, the old family dog passed away earlier this week :(
Isn't Ford continuing with engineering and R & D in this country?
I will continue to support Ford into the future whether it is a vehicle purchase that suits my needs or buying parts and service for my current and future Fords.
What would the chances be for a 2016 GTHO Falcon to finish off with!

They are basically not going to release anything else by the looks of things.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnaldo

Sad day,
sad week for me, the old family dog passed away earlier this week :(
Isn't Ford continuing with engineering and R & D in this country?
I will continue to support Ford into the future whether it is a vehicle purchase that suits my needs or buying parts and service for my current and future Fords.
What would the chances be for a 2016 GTHO Falcon to finish off with!

Zero.

The GTHO badge is owned by a private party. Apparently he offered it back to Ford some time ago but they refused. As for engineering/R&D yes. This decision affects manufacturing, but other arms of the Australian operation will remain, which is fantastic news.

Sorry to hear about your pup too :(

dom_105 · 23-05-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

An interesting commentary in The Age:

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/why...523-2k2n4.html

I for one rather the Falcon badge be retired if it is not going to be used on an Australian-built RWD sedan.

Same with Commodore.

OCTANEBOSS · 23-05-2013, 03:25 PM

Its a sign of the times and a sad day for Ford lovers and those that will lose there jobs soon, the mining boom is over and my job goes in 4 months too. Its to good day to reflect on how you can support Australian businesses and manufacturing by buying local if possible, its hard. Looks like I will be buried with my Boss.
... i will give up my GT but they have to prise from my cold dead fingers...

JC · 23-05-2013, 03:27 PM

The reality is, Aussies get paid too much for imports not to be cheaper and therefore more attractive (ie our average wage and therefore production costs, which dictate final pirce, are higher than overseas, especially in the cheaper Asian markets). Dick Smith pushes "Buy Aussie", but most Aussies can't afford to "Buy Aussie" when the imported product is better value for money.... Shame, but it is what it is.

On a slightly related note, will V8 supercras use the Modeo shell, or will we get the Taurus shell like in Nascar (AWD Taurus police interceptor style car would be great in RHD).

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JC

On a slightly related note, will V8 supercras use the Modeo shell, or will we get the Taurus shell like in Nascar (AWD Taurus police interceptor style car would be great in RHD).

Who knows at this stage...

Obviously Ford has another few years to use the FG bodywork for racing, but beyond that, let me fetch my crystal ball.

Mighty Reds · 23-05-2013, 03:28 PM

I might be naive but I would like to think that Ford is showing the Falcon badge some respect by putting it out to pasture rather than on another car that doesn't deserve the nameplate.

2011G6E · 23-05-2013, 03:40 PM

I don't think "made in Australia" for a car is that big a deal for the big majority of buyers anymore...well it's not obviously, as 85% of cars sold are built overseas.

Buyers have become used to very well equipped cars at a good price. If you are completely honest, it's actually pretty hard to buy a "bad" car nowadays. We bought our son a cheap car...a new Suzuki Alto for $10,990 drive away...two years ago, and apart from the air conditioning knob coming loose, it's had zero problems. It's comfortable, goes surprisingly well for such a cheap little car, and runs on the smell of an oily rag. You would expect something that cheap built in India to be a crap bucket, hardly worth even considering, but it's not. It's honestly a great little thing.

This is what Falcon has to compete with (Commodore too)...sharply priced cars of all sizes that even in their cheapest guise are still good. People no longer see the "need" the biggest car they can lay their hands on for a small family, and if they have a few kids, they usually buy some sort of SUV which have taken the place of large cars in most places...better equipped, just as nice to drive, and safe.

I wouldn't be surprised if Commodore went next.

xisled · 23-05-2013, 03:28 PM

Maybe this could open up the world to FPV.

If the cars are global, we might see a FPV mustang.

blackf6 · 23-05-2013, 03:30 PM

Pull out the old tooling and build some xa-xc coupes and sedans.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by teak81

Pull out the old tooling and build some xa-xc coupes and sedans.

Shut up and take my money!

Gobes32 · 23-05-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by teak81

Pull out the old tooling and build some xa-xc coupes and sedans.

They were melted down years and years ago. Probably early 90's.

BA GT-HO · 23-05-2013, 03:33 PM

Ahh Jeez..

First of all I feel very sorry for all involved down there, that is a nasty situation to be in, I know what manufacturing is like, I've been doing it for all my life. It is at times vicious sadly.

I have owned 6 Falcons from E Series through to B Series. Not one of them has ever badly let me down, they are really good value for money. It is going to be very strange indeed to see the Falcon disappear altogether.

Not sure I ever really want to sell the XR8 now. It is so fun to drive.

Goodbye Falcon, it's been emotional.

Bossxr8 · 23-05-2013, 03:34 PM

FPV is finished too, they will not be sticking FPV badges on other Fords.

While leaving work I noticed the TV crews setting up out the front of the plant, pulling out cameras from the back of 2 brand new Klugers, and I couldn't help but shake my head at the irony.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

FPV is finished too, they will not be sticking FPV badges on other Fords.

While leaving work I noticed the TV crews setting up out the front of the plant, pulling out cameras from the back of 2 brand new Klugers, and I couldn't help but shake my head at the irony.

Not so much irony, but just a demonstration of how much the market has changed.

30 years ago those news crews would have been in a Holden/Ford panno I assume.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 03:41 PM

I actually think some sort of 'memorial' thread dedicated to the more emotive discussion would be a good idea. Mods?

People, myself included, clearly wish to discuss the 'business' side of the issue and it is obviously upsetting some people.

Ron62 · 23-05-2013, 04:01 PM

Everyone will be thinking of you and your work colleagues Bossxr8. The most important thing here is that all you guys get employment after 2016. I am glad that the only car that I have bought brand new was my XR6. Its a great car and I share the sentiments with all the others and to that fact all the Aussies building our cars whatever brand, Thanks. Wish the best for all you guys.

Ron.

Vormund · 23-05-2013, 03:45 PM

This would be the memorial thread now wouldn't it?

Like I said, analysing can wait for the moment methinks.

GT-spec15 · 23-05-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vormund

This would be the memorial thread now wouldn't it?

Like I said, analysing can wait for the moment methinks.

There's been a mix of emotion/rational debate in this thread.

The thread was started because of the announcement...it's obvious people are going to want to discuss the hows/whys.