Any VF performance figures out there yet?

[40RDT]

11.04 on stock rubber and say 3k worth of mods is awesome bang for buck

[shaness8]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I saw the VX GTS vs VF GTS vs HRT V8SC today. I think they said the VF GTS can clock 280km/h down Conrod which considering the V8SC do 300km/h is really moving (and probably scary) in a stock production car.

They should do a BA GT vs FG GT R spec vs FPR car I reckon. Something for everyone.

Anyways so the numbers are out and they seem decent to me. You either see the value in the extra $$$ or you don't.

Should have done a GT R spec and GTS, certainly would of settled some arguments.

[BHDOGS]

An ugly looking car

[Chopped]

Agreed, It's makes a Ssanyong look good. Definitely designed by hitting that modelling clay with an ugly stick.
GTS stands for Gee That's S*#t
Most Holdung drivers only have a few teeth, a mullet and one thong but because the crummykillerdore is so ugly it will make the drivers look good.

[XD ESP! XELR8]

Seen a black VF GTS today..

Looked the goods in my books..

Even the yellow brakes looked horn..

[Chopped]

You can't say that mate. It's a ford forum.
You have to say it looks ugly, it's slow, it's overpriced, it's got too much tech, it's overhyped, it's just a commodore, it's not as good as Stazza's car, it'll fall apart, it's over braked etc etc

Also be suss on HSVs claims and ask for proof but then ignore the acceleration times from the media testing and keep asking for actual times that backup HSVs claims.

[futura]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVUURKZrdCk

HSV GTS v Mercedes E63 AMG | Drag Race | Drive.com.au

Looks like the GTS has meet its match..

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Chopped

You can't say that mate. It's a ford forum.
You have to say it looks ugly, it's slow, it's overpriced, it's got too much tech, it's overhyped, it's just a commodore, it's not as good as Stazza's car, it'll fall apart, it's over braked etc etc

Also be suss on HSVs claims and ask for proof but then ignore the acceleration times from the media testing and keep asking for actual times that backup HSVs claims.

You do know Holden has actually been in trouble for spiking media cars.....there's no laws for that of course but the powers that be got wind of evidence a few years back and investigated.Guilty. Silent smack on the rists.
And what r u goin on about......like I've allready said.....the cars have been in journos hands for many months of testing at strips and tracks and there is like 2 times given. So forgive me if I sit here allll year waiting for a proper test and comparo vs this new halo car and its natural competitor...the GT Rspec. If you have a problem with that.....dont post here......unless you've got some numbers or anything usefull to add

[gcg2503]

The mindset of some on here is pure comedy

Would own one in a heartbeat.

At least HSV invest in wheels that actually look good....

interior also spanks the FG.

[The Monty]

Originally Posted by futura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVUURKZrdCk

HSV GTS v Mercedes E63 AMG | Drag Race | Drive.com.au

Looks like the GTS has meet its match..

12.6 with wheelspin through first and into second. Impressive stuff. Id hate to see how long a set of tyres will last though.

[Chopped]

Originally Posted by 1TUFFUTE

You do know Holden has actually been in trouble for spiking media cars.....there's no laws for that of course but the powers that be got wind of evidence a few years back and investigated.Guilty. Silent smack on the rists.
And what r u goin on about......like I've allready said.....the cars have been in journos hands for many months of testing at strips and tracks and there is like 2 times given. So forgive me if I sit here allll year waiting for a proper test and comparo vs this new halo car and its natural competitor...the GT Rspec. If you have a problem with that.....dont post here......unless you've got some numbers or anything usefull to add

How many acceleration times have been published from the media about the
GT RSpec ? (It's been out a lot longer so there should be heaps)

I have posted plenty of numbers from the few tests that have been done but you seem to ignore them. Your thread is funny : )

[Rodge]

Originally Posted by Chopped

Agreed, It's makes a Ssanyong look good. Definitely designed by hitting that modelling clay with an ugly stick.
GTS stands for Gee That's S*#t
Most Holdung drivers only have a few teeth, a mullet and one thong but because the crummykillerdore is so ugly it will make the drivers look good.

That's GOLD !!

Originally Posted by Rob 18

I go to Bathurst for 5 days, come back after a great Ford win & have a look on here in the pub section & we are still squabbling over who is the quickest.
I proudly own a SC GTP & it is everything & more than I want in a motorcar but credit where credit is due, HSV have built something as fast or maybe even faster & credit to them for building the SC GTS. I'll never own another HSV after the probs I had with a previous one but all credit to them for now having a serious competitor to the GT Falcon.
Did I mention Ford WON Bathurst? You bloody beauty & thats all I care about right now!!
Frosty. Frosty. Frosty. Frosty.

I've come to realise mate...in ten years time you or I will be at a BBQ and people will still be arguing about it then
Two things are for absolute certain, life is "incredibly harsh" when you own a legendary SC FPV
No self respecing man would ever use the self parking system on a Holden even if it can be made to work.

Like you mate, I've tasted Holden's so called "quality control" once before with my VX Calais...once is more than enough.

[duaned]

[40RDT]

Apparently the GTS that ran 11.04 makes 570rwhp with just tune, pulley and headers. Would be interesting to see what kinda power it would make with full exhaust, intake and a cam

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by duaned

image

Is that meant to be a VF?
Might want to brush up on your photoshop skills and check what a real VF looks like.

[Motorbreath310]

I watched that track comparo and I must say; that GTS looked pretty composed going around mt. Panorama. With the prices they're sitting on yards for, it's starting to look like a pretty good value car. I'd like to see what an R-spec could do.

As someone else said - they don't look too bad in black (most cars do) and with the yellow brakes. If they fix the electrical issues, and the car manages not to fall apart, it's starting to look like a good buy. I'm still a wee bit peeved that Ford hasn't gone to the same extent with their hero cars.

Time will tell - I'm interested in seeing how the GTS stands to the test of time. And whether the trail-braking diff and the various life-support systems for the LSA will hold up.

EDIT: why why why does Ford not do a DAMN thing about promoting the FPV range? Holden sent a ute to the Nurburgring FFS! an SS ute! Now VF SS ute drivers think they own (or could own) a supercar!

They need more publicity stunts! imagine if they had staged a Phase III, vs T3 TE50, vs R-Spec lap? Hell, throw an F6 or XR6t in there for good measure!

[Rodge]

If they're so good with all new technology why arn't they selling ? Numerous examples already sitting and sitting unsold on Trade Me in N.Z. ever since they landed here. Here's a Senator in Black. Some are claiming the Senator is the pick of them, (read least ugly),, no takers for 2 months since it was first listed when it arrived off the boat.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=627652610

[stazza]

Originally Posted by 40RDT

Apparently the GTS that ran 11.04 makes 570rwhp with just tune, pulley and headers. Would be interesting to see what kinda power it would make with full exhaust, intake and a cam

XFT in Perth just tuned a GS the other week, 572rwhp on stock pulley and exhaust. Only thing changed from stock was the air filter.

THAT is value for money.

[40RDT]

Originally Posted by stazza

XFT in Perth just tuned a GS the other week, 572rwhp on stock pulley and exhaust. Only thing changed from stock was the air filter.

THAT is value for money.

XFT must have a gun tuner, biblical numbers for a tune only GS

[PepeLePew]

The XFT discussion does not need to be brought into every thread on the forum. This thread is already wandering aimlessly for pages on end can we make a effort to keep it on track please and not distract the conversation.

[Sorted]

Unsure if some one has put this up yet but anyway

2013 Bathurst 1000
Speed Comparison
HSV GEN-F GTS, HSV VX GTS 300 and the Holden Racing Team VF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQFRnUx7srM

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by Sorted

Unsure if some one has put this up yet but anyway

2013 Bathurst 1000
Speed Comparison
HSV GEN-F GTS, HSV VX GTS 300 and the Holden Racing Team VF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQFRnUx7srM

Would have loved to see something similar between the VF GTS and the FG GT R Spec. Like a top 10 shootout though, one car at a time on the track.

[stazza]

Originally Posted by 40RDT

XFT must have a gun tuner, biblical numbers for a tune only GS

Or as stated before, several times. The Holden is simply over priced, over rated, under performing and unimpressive.

5.0l Miami is a bang for buck weapon.

[marcyeo]

Originally Posted by Sorted

Unsure if some one has put this up yet but anyway

2013 Bathurst 1000
Speed Comparison
HSV GEN-F GTS, HSV VX GTS 300 and the Holden Racing Team VF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQFRnUx7srM

I love these comparo's - like the one with the AMG mercs vs V8 supercar vs F1 car.. show's how far we've come in the years past and how good we really can be.. Admittedly the GTS looked the goods on the track, pretty stable and cornered well.
My affinity for Fords aside, I'd still get one if I had the $$..

[duaned]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Is that meant to be a VF?
Might want to brush up on your photoshop skills and check what a real VF looks like.

You are right. The person who made that image should have made it even uglier!

[jimmyxr6t04]

Stazza - that is your opinion, but I think you're way off the mark. Seriously, to get a GT to brake and handle like the GTS, whilst inter cooling it, would probably cost at least 15k... So, based on RRP, that's close to 90k.

I think the GTS is priced about right, for what it offers.

Would it be good value if priced at 85k? I'm sure in time to come there will low km examples for mid 80s. If all the gizmos hold up, then it will be a cracker car.

Actually, I don't know why I bother with ya. Even if it was 55k, and priced to match the GS it still wouldn't be as good aye?

[flooded one]

the GS would look better

[b0son]

Originally Posted by stazza

5.0l Miami is a bang for buck weapon.

True, its only when you add $$$ into the equation that the FPV becomes relevant. Reality is the GTS beats it in almost every other way.

And it should, how much newer is it?... I wouldn't waste my energy arguing the point. Let's just wait and see what FPV's response is in 2014. That's really the only comparison that will matter.

[BHDOGS]

gts sucks

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by Chopped

How many acceleration times have been published from the media about the
GT RSpec ? (It's been out a lot longer so there should be heaps)

I have posted plenty of numbers from the few tests that have been done but you seem to ignore them. Your thread is funny : )

Maybe I don't reply to every single post.....or is it that your posting times that are slow times...not worth the quoting because there are faster times. We want the fastest and most recent and reliable times......not the slow ones. I could post a billion drag videos of vf times.....but we only want the fast times. Maybe ill post the times of the R Spec versus the GenF GTS in the wet. Nah because they are just plain irrelevant.
You know what would make the whole world happy.....if they did a proper test with the GT Rspec and the GTS allready.