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The Ecoboost Falcon is the biggest loss of all in my opinion...it could have been so much more. People aren't afraid of large four cylinder cars anymore...Subaru, Mazda, Toyota, and Honda don't lose sales because they're "only" four cylinders. With a good advertising campaign, it could have been marketed at people considering "foreign" cars.
They should have pushed...hard...the fuel economy and cheaper running costs. In Queensland especially you save a large amount of money having a four over a six or, especially, an eight cylinder. Some figures on the screen could have shown this. And I agree...as sad as the job losses are, the people have a lead time of three years warning. There have been plenty of examples in recent history here of workers turning up at their place of work on Monday morning only to find the gates locked and a notice on the fence...it could have been far worse for the Ford workforce. |
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I am a bit torn really!
Dad's background is an engineering/toolmaking business, but I went down a different path, went to uni, and decided to wear suits for a living. So...I can see both sides. It's sad to gradually lose what we have 'traditionally' done over the decades, but at the same time it's reflective of how our country has developed. Change is inevitable in life.
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Its good that Ford have given staff 3 years notice to find other employment and not gone in September 2016 oh were closing next month. Obviousely it would be better to not be closing but its business.
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Thanks mate.... when my family came over from Germany to visit, my brother said.. quote: "Why doesn't Ford sell the Falcon in Germany....its a brilliant car...I like it a lot!" And when I moved to Australia long time ago, I didn't want a showoffy German car or a Japanese car (don't get me wrong, they are also good cars), I wanted a Falcon. That pretty much sums it up a bit I guess. We love our Falcon and we will keep it for generations. cheers The Moose |
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But no doubt there were beancounters at Broadmeadows who ran the numbers and decided that with the way Falcon was going, it simply wasn't worth the outlay to push it. Makes you wonder why they bothered developing it at all?
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Our "Australian motor industry" for many many decades consisted of bolting together CKD kits from overseas makers...any reason it can't again...?
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![]() There's a handful in classic too....my XP is a learning curve and a half! I honestly don't intent to offend anyone, but this is huge news and as a car nut, I am keen to discuss.
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Why have your CKD kit assembled by Australians when a SE Asian country can do it for far less?
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Ford did assemble here once upon a time
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Had to happen eventually...sad to see it finally happen. I hope those who lost their jobs will find another quickly, being out of a job sucks big time.
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Journalists crowded around a Holden VF Commodore, with Devereux in the front seat, listening via the car’s Bluetooth connection to the announcement that Ford will close its manufacturing operations in Australia from October 2016. ![]() |
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Sad and angry at the news.
Most of all feeling for the workers both at Ford and other suppliers. Keep your chin up guys and gals. Cars and companies can come and go, but we need people like you. |
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Such a shame, they make such good car really but i think their biggest mistake is no export program, holden and toyota export more then they sell here which is why they are still going and in the case of holden im not just talking about cars but their engineering the Omega platform is what almost every large car in the GM network is now based on.
I keep my territory as long as i can, am very sad that there wont be a new one, its the best of its kind and am grateful to the Aussies that built it thats its not just another over gadgeted usual story but a real capable drivers car.
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very very sad day , australia has lost an icon today the Mighty Ford Falcon!
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Having driven / owned many falcons over the years this is very disappointing news. May aswell sell the falcon now and buy a Nissan Z.
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Someone earlier said they felt gutted & empty. That is exactly how I feel.
RDMR/Boss and all those ford workers affected by this, I truly feel for you guys. When watching the press conference live, and seeing those guys interviewed who were visibly shattered...it was truly gut wrenching. You can tell they put their heart & souls into what they do. After all Geoff Polities did what he did in resurrecting things with the BA/Territory, this is truly a sad way to see things end. Not casting aspersions (as I like American's), but an American announcing the end of Australian manufacturing and the falcon just doesn't feel quite right to me. As much as I am bemoaning the loss of the Falcon, the impact on me is relatively minimal in the scheme of things. I won't be able to buy the best large car for Australia come Nov 2016 anymore. I for one would like to say again that I appreciate the passion of the ford workers in what they do. That passion is visible in the FG sitting in my driveway and every time I drive it. I will be for sure grabbing both a new ute & another turbo before the falcon's time is up so I really hope Ford management are true to their word in keeping it until 2016 as some serious saving has to be done first. At this point in time I just can't see another car being purchased after that. |
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If the yanks got to test drive and really experience the superiority of the FG, they (Ford) would need another plant to meet the demand!!!! Then they could export back to us, at a lower cost........ Very sorry for the workers and their families, been there (BHP 1982). Hang in there guys.....(& girls).
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Anyone here know the reason why the Falcon never found an export home in USA?
At least up until very recently, our Commodore/Falcon have been vastly better than what they put together in terms of 'midsize' sedans...
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I am at a loss to explain how the Yanks are able to buy so many new cars with unemployment so high. Is credit that easy to obtain over there???
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The one thing it does have in common with our beloved local car industry is the fact that Govco stuck there uneducated noses into both of these iconic "golden gooses" hoping to milk the cream... Only to succeed in obliterating both with tarriffs and total disregard to common sense!
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Well my take for what its worth is ..
Having purchased 3 new Fords in 2012/13 Ford is part to blame for there own demise. Our 3 recent purchases are enginneered in Aust and Built in Thailand. If we have to let go of Falcon and Territory , Lets hope F series make a come back along with the new Mustang & Explorers but that will not help all those workers out of a job of course in 2016. |
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The last Falcon off the line...I wonder who will get that one.
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Join Date: Nov 2011
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The end of an era for Australia. This will also end GMH too.
While there won't be any local manufacturing from 2016 on, nothing can change the legacy that Ford leaves behind. I've only ever owned Australian Fords and I doubt that will change. I'll just keep mine running forever.
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