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01-11-2009, 09:27 PM | #34 | |||
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lets all chip in and start our own ad campaign that brings out the truth about certain Australianistic claims...
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01-11-2009, 10:21 PM | #36 | |||
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HEY doesnt SIDI stand for Spark Ignition Direct Injection?
Does that mean i have a Spark ignition Port Injection AU falcon or an XY has spark Ignition 2? |
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02-11-2009, 12:37 AM | #39 | ||
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The problem with the parts for cars, especially Holdens and possibly Fords, is they've got to source them from O/S, otherwise the car companies will fold.
I know of 3 or 4 companies that went under because they couldn't compete with O/S companies and their supply costs. At the end of the day, Australian car companies want to stay afloat and they don't care if they destroy small Aust businesses in the process, by getting cheap O/S supplied components. |
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02-11-2009, 01:03 AM | #40 | |||
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A few thoughts from a marketer.It is highly unlikely that the final purchase decision is made based on where the car is built or designed.This will however influence Consumers perceptions of the Car and the Brand.Research shows it is an antecedent,however is not the prime antecedent. Ford discrediting Holden's advertising could have a detrimental effect on Ford,not to mention if not done correctly would get Ford in Legal trouble.Also Knowing Ford's calibre of marketing would not be effective,however they have improved this year.Holdens brand association with Australia,has been created for so long,and as such is very strong,as such initial advertising saying otherwise would be disregarded by consumers. It annoys me so much that Holden is perceived as being Australian,numerous Australian Research papers have found that Holden is generally named when consumers are asked to name what comes to mind when they think "Australia". Simple fact,Holden's brand image in Australia is much stronger than Fords.As such Ford can make their car's as great as they like,however it will be some time until this translates to a strong "positive"brand image.Testament to Fords lack of brand identification in Consumers mind,is the fact that they have needed to change their slogan.Who?Ford of course v :
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02-11-2009, 01:39 AM | #41 | ||
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Don't go on a campaign about dissing Holden, You would be suprised how nasty the die hard Ford fans can come across and make you not want to be part of that culture. It's bad enough allready. All Ford need to do it advertise in the true sense of the word, they don't know how to do it, that's their one and only problem, allways has been. There's some knob on youtube that spends all his days and nights posting crap on every video with a Commodore in it, I swear someones going to stab him one day :p. All his videos are about the earlier Commodore beign Opels, woooo revalation :P. He however doesn't seem to notice that the most famous of all "Australian" Falcons, the XR-Y are for all intent 100% American and are still driving around all over Mexico right now. The point is, after he's spent all his life ****ing off people do you think they will ever buy a Ford?. No: )
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I supose you are right this XR has 2 doors! But even blind Freddy can see something remotly like an XY here. My understanding is that Ford ceased production of the Falcon in the US because of declining sales in the late 60’s, leaving Ford Aus to continue the Falcon legacy here, (actually my fav is the Aussie XB) and I for one would not try to deny the Ford Falcons its origins though. Quote:
Why can't we just be proud of our heritage instead of getting in to a tizzy every time Holden is mentioned? This is not to have a go at anyone here but lately the negativity on this forum is just getting me down. |
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02-11-2009, 12:08 PM | #45 | |||
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allthou correct from 1960 -1970 the falcon was an american design. the first oz design falcon was XA.
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The 1960 XK was all American - made here. More local content and testing up until the 1965 XP (which had the 1960 Mercury comet nose). The 1966 XR was a re-engineered american design similar to the 1978 commodore in concept. Facelifts originated out of Ford canada, as FoA did not have a design studio. The 1972 Xa was australian designed in ford's american studios, but built on reengineered xr underpinnings. |
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I thought the Aurion was the traffic light king ?!
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My avatar really has nothing to do with this thread. I'm born and bred Australian. My avatar simply shows my acceptance of Ford's origins. So yes it does concern me when Holden continually churn out what, in all realism, are lies. Now that is something Australia has nothing to be proud of... Ford Australia know that people think they're an American brand. But they still sell vehicles designed and built by Australians for Australians. And they don't need to lie through their teeth to do it. Now that IS something to be proud of. |
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Can anyone tell me why on the Holden website, they do not quote the urban and extra urban (highway) fuel consumption? Or does anyone know what they are? They only quote the combined figure.
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The SV6 and XR6 are more the low-po cars of each brand these days, if you want the best performer you go out and get an XR6T or if your really serious you get a F6, which we all know eats everything it see's alive! :
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