Need advise on buying a new CAM :D - Page 2

SB4 · 10-10-2006, 10:16 PM

You really know your shi!te don't you yagz! Thanks for all the advise

Looks like i'll be having my xr6 cam ground to 1636 spec. How many ef/el shims would i need? And if i was to buy the vernier gears also how much would i be looking at?

Christiaan · 10-10-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SB4

You really know your shi!te don't you yagz! Thanks for all the advise

Looks like i'll be having my xr6 cam ground to 1636 spec. How many ef/el shims would i need? And if i was to buy the vernier gears also how much would i be looking at?

You need one extra shim per rocker arm, so 12 all up.

Venier gear is around $100-130.

I'd chuck the cam in and see how the power is first before you worry about vernier. Organise a mod day, and i'll come round and watch you drop shins down the oil gallery

SB4 · 10-10-2006, 11:51 PM

lol a mod day isn't a bad idea! Can't wait till i have the cam done now.
One more question.. how long does it take for Wade to have the cam ground? Will have to lend the old mans beast xf wagon for a while.
Off topic, have you had a recent photo shootout with Alex? Or is that from the last meet? Your avatar pic looks wicked!

Christiaan · 11-10-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SB4

lol a mod day isn't a bad idea! Can't wait till i have the cam done now.
One more question.. how long does it take for Wade to have the cam ground? Will have to lend the old mans beast xf wagon for a while.
Off topic, have you had a recent photo shootout with Alex? Or is that from the last meet? Your avatar pic looks wicked!

Kenaz · 11-10-2006, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shuresm58

My car, wade 1004 112, same setup as you, 139.6rwkw. No quarter yet.

pfft! Get a V8 up ya :nutsycuck

SupahStah · 11-10-2006, 11:26 PM

Does anyone know if they can grind my cam to 1636 specs ? (dont know how it works lol)

cuz Ive got the Hybrid motor (AU rocker gear) and I would rather keep the hybrid parts in it, just throw a better cam in.

SupahStah

gthofan · 11-10-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EB_Lightning

any idea on the idle quality of the 1636?

the 1636 is the refined version on the wade- 1004.

1636 smooth idle
1004 rougher (lumpier idle)

you could get a higher lift cam such as the 977B but then u will need new springs, and over all more buggerising around. but oh the rewards would be sweet hahaha

gthofan · 11-10-2006, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SupahStah

Does anyone know if they can grind my cam to 1636 specs ? (dont know how it works lol)

cuz Ive got the Hybrid motor (AU rocker gear) and I would rather keep the hybrid parts in it, just throw a better cam in.

SupahStah

sorry man, we cant do any cams for the hybrid engine

Christiaan · 12-10-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gthofan

sorry man, we cant do any cams for the hybrid engine

Can you let us know how long it takes to grind a cam up?

SB4 · 12-10-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shuresm58

What you do, is grab a standard cam, and get it ground. Don't use your XR cam. They will grind any XR bits out of it anyway. I have 2 standard cams sitting here ready to be ground, that way, you don't need to lend a car or have yours off the road.. I'm not sure how long they take, ask gthofan, as he works there.

That sounds like a good idea Yagz. Does it have to be an EL cam? I'm assuming the cams are different on the EB-ED 4 litres?
And as for those shots, they look awesome! Your car looks mint! ;)

Christiaan · 12-10-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SB4

That sounds like a good idea Yagz. Does it have to be an EL cam? I'm assuming the cams are different on the EB-ED 4 litres?
And as for those shots, they look awesome! Your car looks mint! ;)

All cams 3.9 EA > 4.0 EL are the same. My 1004 112 wade cam has 87DA on it, and 3.9L.

gthofan · 12-10-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shuresm58

All cams 3.9 EA > 4.0 EL are the same. My 1004 112 wade cam has 87DA on it, and 3.9L.

the ea and eb cams are different,
ea- 87da
eb- 91da
ef- 94da or dd
el- ??? unsure

and it doesnt take very long to grind one at all. just send it in and say when u want it back!!

cheers
scott

Damo · 12-10-2006, 10:49 PM

I think what shuresm meant was they are all compatible apart from late EL's which run an AU style head and rocker ratio.

Christiaan · 12-10-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gthofan

the ea and eb cams are different,
ea- 87da
eb- 91da
ef- 94da or dd
el- ??? unsure

and it doesnt take very long to grind one at all. just send it in and say when u want it back!!

cheers
scott

Are you sure you work for wade and grind cams for a living? ALL the cams are interchangable (except the 96DA/DT cams). All that's different is the numbers/names on the cam itself.

And what is a 94DD? You mean 94DT?

EFFalcon · 12-10-2006, 10:56 PM

interchangable, but different.
you're talking about different things.

Christiaan · 12-10-2006, 10:58 PM

They're not different when comparing re-grinds, which is what we're talking about. The original profile becomes extinct.

I was answering the question. The side track that gthofan decided to have a wander on is just confusing people.

gthofan · 12-10-2006, 11:02 PM

we got our wires crossed. the standard cams are different, but of cause when they are ground they all have the same base circle size, lobe lift and duration

Christiaan · 12-10-2006, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gthofan

we got our wires crossed. the standard cams are different, but of cause when they are ground they all have the same base circle size, lobe lift and duration

Yeah sorry. That's what we were talking about, so I didn't understand your post.

On another note, I hate E-series fords. :ymca:

gthofan · 12-10-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shuresm58

Yeah sorry. That's what we were talking about, so I didn't understand your post.

On another note, I hate E-series fords. :ymca:

then take your comments elsewhere then!!!

Damo · 12-10-2006, 11:30 PM

yeah e-series suck!

Christiaan · 12-10-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Damo

yeah e-series suck!

How dare you! Go away you devil, you! :monkes: :ticking:

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gthofan · 12-10-2006, 11:45 PM

shuresm58---- are ya thinking of getting another cam?

Damo · 12-10-2006, 11:59 PM

it's true Yagz. I want an LS1. E-series 6 cylinders are the gayest sounding engine ever..

Christiaan · 13-10-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by gthofan

shuresm58---- are ya thinking of getting another cam?

That's what I was getting at with my e-series suck post. I'd love another cam, but our crappy ECU's aren't up to the job.

I can't be bothered going to a 1521a or bigger, because of the engine management side of things. It'd require valve springs, and probably a vernier gear.

I'm going gas soon, my car is staying the way it is.

gthofan · 13-10-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shuresm58

That's what I was getting at with my e-series suck post. I'd love another cam, but our crappy ECU's aren't up to the job.

I can't be bothered going to a 1521a or bigger, because of the engine management side of things. It'd require valve springs, and probably a vernier gear.

I'm going gas soon, my car is staying the way it is.

i know someone else who wants a 1521a but u cant get it. you need a billet for it, and we aint got any coming in

Christiaan · 13-10-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gthofan

i know someone else who wants a 1521a but u cant get it. you need a billet for it, and we aint got any coming in

Err, I don't want a 1521a :P

But yes, I know you can't get it.

Why is there no billet cams available?

gthofan · 13-10-2006, 12:12 AM

im not sure why there arn't any billets coming in, but ill find out.

im so tempted to get the 977 but then i have to play around with the head a bit

SB4 · 13-10-2006, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gthofan

the ea and eb cams are different,
ea- 87da
eb- 91da
ef- 94da or dd
el- ??? unsure

and it doesnt take very long to grind one at all. just send it in and say when u want it back!!

Hey Scott, thanks for that. It says 95DT on my motor head. Hopefully saturday if nothing comes up, i'll drop by to the wreckers get myself a cam, then come over and drop it off to you guys. I'll be quite happy to pick it up the following saturday.

cheers
sam

gthofan · 13-10-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SB4

Hey Scott, thanks for that. It says 95DT on my motor head. Hopefully saturday if nothing comes up, i'll drop by to the wreckers get myself a cam, then come over and drop it off to you guys. I'll be quite happy to pick it up the following saturday.

cheers
sam

hey sam, what profile are you going to get ground?

oh by the way we are closed on weekends, so just drop it off during the week, or even send it in.

SB4 · 13-10-2006, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gthofan

hey sam, what profile are you going to get ground?

oh by the way we are closed on weekends, so just drop it off during the week, or even send it in.

Will be going for the 1636 profile.
I won't be able to drop in during the week so i'll have to send it off to you guys. I'll do that on monday :1syellow1