Fastest un-opened (and unboosted) e-series? and what do I do to get there?

[Parfrey]

i got 15.1 with cat back and 14.8 with extractors/ and a k+n so u should b able to do a low 14 unopened (not including headgaskests lol)

[EFFalcon]

Originally Posted by xhxrsix

i got 15.1 with cat back and 14.8 with extractors/ and a k+n so u should b able to do a low 14 unopened (not including headgaskests lol)

how much does your car weigh?
don't XH's weigh a fair bit less then an EA-EL?

[Christiaan]

Originally Posted by XRated

So you've done your mods for resale, Yagz?

Let's see.

Mods when I got the car:

- Extractors
- 17" Wheels
- Exhaust
- 3.45 Single spinner

Mods I've done to make the car fun to drive:

- 5 Speed
- $60 cam
- 3.45 LSD

Arguably those mods are for drivability, not speed.

My car would be lucky to pull a high high 14, or low 15 when it was straight fuel. With gas now, it'll be lucky to get a mid to high 15.

If I wanted speed, I'd have gone NOS or Turbo.

N/A isn't the way to go for speed, without NOS or something. 5 speed, lsd's, they're just for more fun to drive.

If you wanna go fast, it'll cost you money. I'm at the stage now, where I'd need to spend $1000 minimum to get from 140rwkw to 150rwkw. Past 150rwkw is about another $1500.

My mods have been cheap, and account for drivability, and making my car into something a little sportier. Nothing more i hate than an auto, and single spinner.

[Christiaan]

Originally Posted by EFFalcon

what yagz says and does are 2 completely different things.

And as for you, Mr. I've Had A Turbo For 2 Years And Haven't Fitted It Yet, you can talk?

[EA6]

Originally Posted by shuresm58

Arguably those mods are for drivability, not speed.

Arguably my turbo BA conversion is for driveability too. 4: Mmm torque.

[BLSTIC]

Originally Posted by EvilChief

there are a few AU 6s out there that havent had their HG change yet as they are below the 180 mark.

i believe u can run very well into the 14s with an "unopened" engine, you can substitute the port job for a good ecu retune, i was targeting 14s on stock ecu, however was running redicolously rich, much more power to be gained by a decent retune. i rekon a mid 14 sec pass would have been very well on teh cards with an aftermarket ecu or similar

i am hopeing for a 14sec pass in the ef wagon without pulling the head off, having said that HG was changed by previous owner

hmm i was hoping that the exhaust and intake manifolds would allow me to get enough air-flow to not touch the ecu at that point. I really only want to get the car tuned twice (once after the cam/head, and once after step 8, whether that is a blower or some high-compression pistons I havent figured).

oh, and record for head gasket? at 330,000km i would have to be close.

so has anyone gone and put a hot cam, port job, manifolds etc on a standard bottom end before?

thanks
Ben

[EFFalcon]

Originally Posted by shuresm58

And as for you, Mr. I've Had A Turbo For 2 Years And Haven't Fitted It Yet, you can talk?

yes? i havnt contradicted myself ;)
the amount of times you've questioned people about going turbo... obviously its not that bigger waste of money if you were considering it.

[Christiaan]

Originally Posted by EFFalcon

yes? i havnt contradicted myself ;)
the amount of times you've questioned people about going turbo... obviously its not that bigger waste of money if you were considering it.

Haha. I just think the laws are stupid for making it so costly to make them legal. If they could be made legal, and insurance wouldn't rape you, it would be an awesome mod. Home done turbo can be had for $2500. Best bang for your buck easily.

But yeh, to go fast, you need money.

[T_Terror]

I thought it said FASTEST UNOPENED AND BOOSTED E-SERIES and thought jeez, this guy is gonna have a tough time beating that low 10 quarter that ea ba turbo ran.

[efgiar]

isnt the fastest NA e-series the jmm one? 13.2

[EFFalcon]

yes, but we're talking unopened....
for some reason :S

[BLSTIC]

reason being ease of transfer to my daily. Its a whole lot easier to change manifolds than engines...

[BLSTIC]

that and im at least pretending to stick to a budget for this project...

[SupahStah]

I got a 15.080 in my EL XR6 5 Speed
Hasnt had a head gasket change or anything
All factory gaskets, I am pretty sure the rocker cover gasket is factory too

All my mods are in my sig. Mainly intake, and exhaust mods, as well as good timing, and JMM clutch. And I think the clutch is causing some dramas for me :( I dunno wots wrong wif it lol

[Damo]

JMM don't make clutches.

[XR_Lightning]

Originally Posted by Damo

JMM don't make clutches.

they probably just say they do and put their sticker on it, I know they have those high-stall converters and they probably do the same thing

[SupahStah]

I assumed JMM made lots of things.
This is a JMM Extreme clutch. $800 worth or so (came with my T5 conversion)
But there is no slip what so ever

[Jason[98.EL]]

i have run a 15.46 with a 98 el auto and i know that the car is def un-opened i have the full service history for the car right up to 3 weeks before i bought it

btw it sat in the yard for a week before i picked it up

the only thing done to me el is custom extractors and a full cat back exhaust i know this as i did it

jason

[Parfrey]

yeah utes are about 1500kg so slightly heavier a gl sedan but lighter than a fairmont. ;)

[BLSTIC]

so I take it that its possible to hit the 14s with 6throttles, exhaust, and a diff change?

and has anyone here gone to the trouble of 'manualising' their btr? by which i mean disconnecting everything bar the s1 and s2 solenoids and switching them directly...

[Damo]

JMM extreme clutch is just an extreme clutch (SA company) and yes the Hi stalls are built by another company for JMM and JMM cams are grinded at Wade cams etc. Jim and brendan don't have the tooling to make all there stuff themselves.

But who cares! there gear is proven and works! You pay a premium for a premium product. Sorry for taking this thread on a side track. JMM FTW NA!

[BLSTIC]

hardly off track, this thread was about making the ballsiest OHC falcon for the cheapest amount of money. Now that we know the manufacturers, they might sell us direct...


doubt it though...

[XR6TickfordBoy]

So is the consensus that a mid to low 14 is about the max for an "unopened" eseries?