Poll: King of the Ford V8's

[smciner1]

351 4V Cleveland (tm).

[Auslandau]

351C......I have one and I like it. Not much else to say!



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[nugget378]

Cleveland for me,best aussie made engine ever out:

[Group C]

I'm a Windsor man, thru and thru, so I'd have an original 69-70 Boss 302, even tho they had Cleveland heads, which we all know made 1 of the best V8's ever conceived.

[YOOT]

The absolute king would be the 238ci turbo charge 6 that is currently making all blue over bent eights looks lactluster. :

[4Vman]

Dont get me wrong, i love the BOSS 302 but ive allways wanted to know why everyone generally accepts that the BOSS 302 was an awesome engine (which it was) because of the Big port 4V heads yet some people bag the 4V headed 351 cleveland because the heads are basically the same big port 4V's???!!!
The 351C is bigger in capacity so it should suit the heads better than the 302!!
Got to love myths and "urban" truths.....

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by Perana XR8

Phase 2's had Clevo's....

Didn't the early Phase 2 come with Windsors?

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

Didn't the early Phase 2 come with Windsors?

Nope, Phase 1 was 351W, late Phase 1 were Cleveland (some people call them phase 1 1/2), All phase 2 were solid cam cleveland.

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Nope, Phase 1 was 351W, late Phase 1 were Cleveland (some people call them phase 1 1/2), All phase 2 were solid cam cleveland.

I knew there was a Change during Phase one or two i was always told it was the other way, thanks for the info :

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by YOOT

The absolute king would be the 238ci turbo charge 6 that is currently making all blue over bent eights looks lactluster. :

I must have missed that one in the list :

[Fryday]

Decisions, Decisions.... I said Clevo cause I love the one that's in my XY and there's no chance of a change but I'm sure a 427 or a big block would do the job just nicely

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by YOOT

The absolute king would be the 238ci turbo charge 6 that is currently making all blue over bent eights looks lactluster. :

Maybe you should vote for the Flathead. It certainly describes you accurately.

[Boss 330]

I reckon my boss is the king of all V8's,

Only joking, my vote goes to the mighty clevo!!

[Gammaboy]

As much as I love my Clevo, my vote goes to the 385 series block, stroked and poked to 500+ cubes and fitted with Ford Motorsport A442 SuperSwirl Boss 429 style heads. Serious Ownage of any other Ford V8 in terms of sheer horsepower.
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OK, 1969/1970 Boss 429 to clarify.

[Group C]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Dont get me wrong, i love the BOSS 302 but ive allways wanted to know why everyone generally accepts that the BOSS 302 was an awesome engine (which it was) because of the Big port 4V heads yet some people bag the 4V headed 351 cleveland because the heads are basically the same big port 4V's???!!!
The 351C is bigger in capacity so it should suit the heads better than the 302!!
Got to love myths and "urban" truths.....

Agreed, but coming from a circuit racing background all my life, I tend to look past outright capacities and look at the overall package, including WEIGHT.
You'd have to agree that the Cleveland (in original form, not aftermarket alloy) is a heavy bugger.
Moffat proved that when he swapped the Boss 302 in his Mustang for the Cleveland out of his Super Falcon in the early 70's and found it totally changed the car's handling, for the worse.

I'd have had Clevo's in the past, and my old man club races 1 down here these days in his 82 Dick Johnson 'Red Roo Pipe' replica, but I just prefer the light weight, revvy little Windsor is all.

[The G6ET Spot]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

I knew there was a Change during Phase one or two i was always told it was the other way, thanks for the info :

The XW GT-HO ran from August 69 and ran the 351 windsor,then when the phase 2 was released they ran the 351 cleveland.

And as far as which motor was the best i'll have a 428 cobra jet thanks.

[AUIII XR8 MAN]

I like the Cleveland.

[mik]

phase 3 was my dream car so it has to be the clevo 4v

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by YOOT

The absolute king would be the 238ci turbo charge 6 that is currently making all blue over bent eights looks lactluster. :

It's a bit bigger then that... *cough* 243ci *cough*

[YOOT]

Originally Posted by Steffo

It's a bit bigger then that... *cough* 243ci *cough*

243.97ci to be more precise! I rounded the figures a bit much.

[YOOT]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

Maybe you should vote for the Flathead. It certainly describes you accurately.

Its alright mate, I'd be ИИИИed off too! Lucky though I'm not a V8 owner LOL! :

[nb_351]

yeah i own a 6, but having gone for a ride in a phase 2 as my first real car experience... love them... at full noise, yes please...
also been for a ride in a 460 bb xb coupe, wouldnt say no to one of them either... dont want the fuel and maintenance bills on them thogh...
would say the cleveland as it would handle better, and can make the same kind of figures if you try...

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by YOOT

243.97ci to be more precise! I rounded the figures a bit much.

243.97? How'd you come up with that?

3984cc = 242.926829268292682926829268.... ci

[NAK302]

well, i've never owned any of the early v8's, big blocks, boss or 351 windsor so i cannot comment on those.
the 2 barrel 302w has a soft spot for me as it was the first v8 i owned, very basic no pollution $hit.
the EFI 5.0 was nice but i may as well have bought a six.
i've had many 4.9/5.8 clevelands and they speak for themselves, easy to get power but huge on fuel usage.
for refinement, power and fuel usage nothing i have mentioned gets even close to the Boss 290.

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by YOOT

Lucky though I'm not a V8 owner LOL! :

817 hp @ 6,500 rpm at the fly wheel from a naturally aspirated carburetted 385 series big block at the JEG Engine Masters Comp.

Pull the hair dryer off your six, then see how well you pull against it with your taxi motor.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by YOOT

The absolute king would be the 238ci turbo charge 6 that is currently making all blue over bent eights looks lactluster. :

There's always one. You got that turbo ****er bit right though.

[coyote]

1991 onwards : why not consider the variants available in this Mellinium????

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by coyote

1991 onwards : why not consider the variants available in this Mellinium????

I hate to break this to you, but your state of the art modular was designed over a decade ago after a billion dollars worth of investment from Ford US.

[eb91xr6]

428 ohhhhhhhh

[Gammaboy]

Originally Posted by YOOT

Its alright mate, I'd be ИИИИed off too! Lucky though I'm not a V8 owner LOL! :

240rwkw in 1920kg is nothing to write home about mate. Try 300rwkw in a 1500kg car.

Just remember, throw some boost on an 8 and you won't see which way they went. /me points at "OVA 800", John White's twin turbo 408 windsor in a 67 Mustang.
Boost + Cubes >>>> You.