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The speculation is building.
"Unconfirmed reports out of the US this week suggest that Holden is set to move to a front-wheel-drive platform for its next-generation Commodore, with the locally-developed Zeta platform to be dumped in favour of GM’s Epsilon II platform." http://www.themotorreport.com.au/508...on-ii-platform
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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That article is from September 2010. And still no confirmation.. |
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Who knows what will happen eventually, but I dont see the point of going Front-wheel-drive, you will then be competing against every Tom Dick and Harry with FWD family cars. Plus they would lose a lot of their premium and V8 sales..
From the sounds of it, it will remain RWD for at least another decade http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2011...e-future-23166 10 January 2011 Quote:
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With a 75% import ratio on the cruze parts, you would have to wonder how these would make the plant any more viable. But then again, they werent making money when they were making 200,000 cars a year. If he's not trying to deceive, you gotta hand it to him for his optimism, by saying he has faith in the future of the commodre despite a near 15 year trend in declining sales for large cars. |
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Looks like some reporters are mistaking the substitution of FWD Malibu for Epica
and assuming the worst. The question is whether Malibu will sell worth a darn either. |
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i'm sure it makes a lot more sense for Falcon to go FWD before commodore, since commodore has a lot more sales at risk, where ford has less to loose. both makes will take a hit when they first make this change.
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so why would that make sense?
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Making superman jealous
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declining sales WTF umm no although the whole market has gone down since the GFC globally the number one car in Australia is still the commodore with the cruze coming in around 4th and falcon is around 5th
While they may introduce a cheaper FWD car the commodore will stay RWD and the current platform is the GM global RWD platform that many models are built on.
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No longer a Uni student..
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Front wheel drive VH for "export"? No they weren't...all Commodore Fours were rear wheel drive with 13" wheels, using the smaller Torana five bolt pattern. I owned a 1980 VC Commodore Four SL. Very comfy car, but not the fastest with that Starfire Four in it. Driveline was pretty much similar to a "normal" Commodore. Mine had the old Traumatic three speed auto and a 3.9 diff ratio.
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The corolla cheap financing was due to end at the end of january, but is still continuing, so i reckon in a few days time, it will have opened up an even better lead than the 1400 it has now. If you compare jan 2010 to feb 2010 sales, you will see the commodore had a 20% jump in sales (jan - feb), whereas the corolla had a 10% jump, and mazda 3 only had a 5% jump. So commodore may have big jump (if people think fleets/ business) come back into market in feb, but this year, its going to have to have a 50% jump in sales just to not lose any ground on the corolla (providing the corolla doesnt lose any sales). I would expect to see the $32990 drive away SV6 come mid year sales. |
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The Cruze is the FWD Commodore.....or effectively will be once it topples Commodore on the sales charts.
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Both Ford and Holden are paying the price of, basically, pretending Australia has nothing to do with the rest of the world.
Other countries (even, amazingly, the USA) are developing large comfortable family cars with more and more fuel efficient engines, and in most countries, that means superb 4 cylinder and V6 turbo diesels that, in a lot of cases, out-perform the petrol variants. In Australia, we still have the "stigma" that diesel is for lumbering 4x4's and trucks. Very slowly we are seeing people realise that diesels can be amazingly fuel efficient and perfectly acceptable engine for a family car, far from the old knocking rattling engines of decades past. While other countries have been doing this, Australian manufacturers have been pouring tens to hundreds of millions of dollars into developing new V8 engines. Why? The rest of the world must be shaking thier head and laughing at us. Put a crate engine from America in the Falcon and Commodore if they must, but put the local development dollars into things that matter. |
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