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Now what would the view here be of a protester running onto the track at WSID or Heathcote during a drag race protesting against "hooning" and getting hurt in the process?
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So far the majority on here are of the view the women was at fault for getting shot do you really think the result would be different in the above scenario? |
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You can easily not pull a trigger, if youre not Elmer Fudd. Its much harder to pull up or swerve when a car is pushing the limits of grip. |
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Very harsh to say the kids not gun smart because of this incident. |
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Let us all know about your personal experiences shooting and hunting, specifically ducks...... Or are you just blabbering on about something you know nothing about as usual. |
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Did he bag the duck?
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You have a history as been a redneck with a love for guns...opinions are like a/holes. |
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Firstly I will say that I believe it is the woman's own stupid fault, she knowingly put herself in harms way, against the law to make her point. She did this knowing the risk and the result was the price that she declared she was willing to pay by stepping into the water.
As for the boy, considering it seems she copped a few pellets, the spread was not enough for the shooter to not know that there was someone at risk of being hit. Any good gun operator not only knows where the target is but has a heightened awareness of who else is around and always puts safety first. Who would have been at fault if he shot another duck hunter? I am tipping the boy would cop some criticism.
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no he got a stupid cow
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Lol @ this. #4's within 50 meters will hurt allot. I dont get why people would be hating on the duck shooting, I have seen some of the shooters practice at Frankston, many ducks have an excellent chance of escape.
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The other point is the boy was exactly that, an inexperienced boy. There is only one way to gain experience and that is by doing. If classroom lectures could replace real word experience there would be no need for P plates would there? |
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Hope youre proud of yourself. What youve just said is, that hunting is so terribly uncontrollable, that its highly likely that if a 12 yr old non hunting child wandered into bushland he could also be shot, despite not placing himself willingly in any danger. Yeah yeah, ducks. This wont simply be about ducks, it going to be about shooting and accidents in general. The shot fired is pure reflex? Movement, sound? Or maybe its being completely oblivious to the area which will be effected by the shot? ie: Tunnel vision. Yeah, youd make a great teacher. Sight the target, identify it, identify dangers (aware of all surroundings, where will the bullet go if I miss for example (yes Im aware it was a shotgun)), and then maybe shoot. What about the banned ducks (non game species)? What a bout the laws regarding no shoot. How can you identify the species, and not notice its a human head? Or how do you miss the human head within range of the spread of pellets? Even if as someone said, she was in camo, so are many hunters. If you cant see them, then you shouldnt be hunting either. Oh i get it, most idiots out there shouldnt be, they ruin it for everyone else, god damned Rambos. Seriously, do all hunters a favour and shut up. You do more harm than good. |
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I love this one.
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Any accident is normally a combination of errors and normally although the law may say otherwise, realistically more than one person has a part responsibility. I think this situation is no different. Just for the record for the benefit of others, as Flappist knows I do have a lot of experience with firearms of many different types, including shot guns.
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maybe she should have worn the flouro that she had on in the photo
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I dont know about your eyesight, but I can tell the difference between a duck, and a human head. |
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She could have been hit at any time while drudging through the swamp inadvertently by the end of projectile's trajectory. It was only a matter of time.
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Perhaps some of her supporters should see what someone looks like after they’ve “really” been shot with a shot gun.
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Regardless of whether or not you like Duck hunting.....
If you know there are lots of people in a paddock/swamp with guns and... Some of these people are city folk, like you, that go out only for Duck season and.... They all don't shoot as well as Michael Diamond and.... You go into the water before 10:00am and.... You stand in front of them.... There is a remote possibility you might get shot.
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If you do not want to get shot ..... do not get between a gun and a target! Duck shooting is not a spectator sport for this very reason. I do not believe you were there so you (& I & others) cannot determine her level of stupidity and the competence of the shooter ........ if you have shot flying ducks before you would know the rapid movement that is involved in swiveling and leading the ducks before firing with 2 eyes open. If someone wants to jump in front of a gun, well they are really quite stupid. Looking at her injuries ...... it looks to be a result of falling shrapnel rather than being lined up ..... but like yourself, I wasn't there so only speculating (Except her stupidity is an obvious) Lets not get too personal in this discussion or thread will be closed ....... and not because I agree or disagree ......
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I have not said she didnt contribute to her own situation, nor did I say the 14 yr old was deliberately targeting a human being. I did state that protesters should not be protesting in the way they do, its dumb and fraught with danger. Many of my comments are on shooting in general, as that is the way this will play out. I get it, he followed a duck, much like a skeet, and fired. Ive done that at Imbil, where the skeets come out of the trees, with trees everywhere. That range is in the bush, literally. However, that doesnt change the fact that some of his shot hit a woman. That in itself says something about shooting, that I as a shooter, dont want said. Its more ammo to the cause of banning hunting and guns. She shouldnt have been there at all, let alone in the water. But anyone who says that is the way hunting is, is damaging the cause of hunting and gun ownership. Honestly, gun owners are their own worst enemy. |
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