Why arent there many old Fords anymore compared to Holdens?

[Ryan]

Here in Newcastle it's not often you see a old Holden, or Ford on the road. It's a breath of fresh air though in at the Foreshore when a nice old Monaro, Kingswood, Falcon etc shows up among all the riced out crapboxes, later model 6 cylinder Commodores/Falcons etc.

[sarrge2001]

Originally Posted by flappist

Winter? Oh yeh that is the time when the temerature can get down to 22 degrees....

You mean overnight obviously........

[landau460]

Originally Posted by auxr

Nailed it - Ford & Holden classics rugged up in a nice warm garage or shed, will slowly thaw and populate the roads with the advent of spring weather.

I have a shed for one of my cars but the other does not get the nice warm shed im still under deep negotiations with the boss. Im seeing signs she is crumbling!

[Geez Louise]

I find it really rare to see a Torana on the road these days. As people have said, wait till Summer and then people start taking them out for a drive.

[saber]

Originally Posted by ltd

Ford used parts are worth something, what's left is worth something to scrap metal merchants. With the advent of Marine Parks off the coast and strict rules regarding moorings of vessels, most Holdens aren't needed any longer to anchor boats; so there's more of them on the street.

Haha gold!!!

Around the Preston, Reservoir, Bundoora area I see a few tradies with done up WB utes...they look pretty smick

[Barry_v]

Originally Posted by EA Bogan

Is it just me or are there hardly any 1979 or older Australian Fords on the roads?? I haven't seen a Cortina, Fairlane or even 70s Falcon for many months and i drive a great deal across alot of locations. In contrast, there appear to be many many old Statesmans Kingswoods and late 70s commodores everywhere. Is it just Adelaide or is there a massive lack of old Fords everywhere?

Holdens kept their 'classic' 70s design until 1985 with the WB, which was still (to the casual observer) a '71 HQ body. So most people will see a WB and think '70s car', when they are in fact equivalent to an XD or XE (which don't stick out quite so much in traffic). add to that people chopping and changing parts between HQ-WB and you get the effect of the 70s holden fleet looking quite large.

also, adelaide is the home of holden.. so its not really suprising they're more popular in general here. I still drive my '79 P6 daily, although most people don't even recognize it as a ford (the only reference to ford is the 'LTD by Ford' cursive badge at the back, no blue oval).

[lamborghinifan]

rust.

[big_landau]

there are more valiant daily drivers here then the rest,followed by ford then holden.

[big_landau]

Originally Posted by Powdered Toast Man

The weather in each particular area would be a factor too. I'm betting you see more nice old school cars in QLD than in the wet south.

i actually find it the opposite.i have lived up here for around 20 years and around 20 years around armidale nsw and i still go there on a regular basis.i find the more humid the weather the more cars rust,i have found the higher the altitude the longer the car lasts.

[JimNiki]

Originally Posted by flappist

Winter? Oh yeh that is the time when the temperature can get down to 22 degrees....

My cafe queen goes out for a quick squirt through the Macca's drive through when the weather is between 24 -26.5 degrees... oh and no rain forcast for the next 5 days !...

Can't have that vermilion fire getting wet or fading in scorching 27 degrees! god forbid! hehe

[66GT]

My 66 GT Cortina & 77 5.8 Falcon coupe get seen by me every day as I walk past them to leave the house. I then drive either the Laser or AU to work or where ever I'm off to. There is a few oldies both Ford & Holden used as daily drivers here on the Gold Coast, with many more getting out for a cruise on the week ends.

[gtfpv]

i agree with the OP . in sydney i dont see any fords pre EF OR 1994 ANYMORE . AND THATS ONLY 15 YEARS OLD.

[TheInterceptor]

yup, nothin much round here, although i rode past a beautiful xc panelvan this morning, and this evening drove past 2 HX Kingswood utes sitting in a dealership....
But that panelvan...ohh mannnn.......

[Pattey215900]

Exactley fords have more history not just in aus but internationally

[Revolver]

Can be a case of a couple of things:

1. They are just not in your area. On the Fairlane appreciation thead, it was once discussed on the colours on NA/NC 'lanes. I myself have always wondered, why there are so many emerald green, & silver ones up here in QLD, but almost no cobalt blue ones like mine. Turns out that the emerald green ones are a bit thin on the ground in VIC if I remember. Guess it could be the same.

2. Any car beyond 20yrs old is generally considered a classic (some people may argue 30) & they start to be snapped up eagerly, or as said before, rust starts to kill them. So= less.

3. If you have one of these (also mentioned previously) you wont use it as a daily driver.

4. Holden parts are generally a bit more abundant, & therefore more affordable.

5. Does it matter? The more there are put away, the more that survive....

[xe351]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

i agree with the OP . in sydney i dont see any fords pre EF OR 1994 ANYMORE . AND THATS ONLY 15 YEARS OLD.

+1.

Dont really see much around here at all, except for that black Landau that comes out occassionally mmm...

[Pinkbits]

I travel around country Victoria for work and the most common old car i see are Holden HQ-WB variants.
There are still a lot of pre-90's cars out there used as daily drivers.
Just this morning coming home @ 2.30am i saw a HQ 2 door Monaro on South rd Moorabbin.

[Road Games]

Originally Posted by flappist

Winter? Oh yeh that is the time when the temerature can get down to 22 degrees....

It was 21 last night ... I had to put an extra blanket on

[JimNiki]

Originally Posted by DAZZLER351

It was 21 last night ... I had to put an extra blanket on

Seriously though, with the warmer spring weather coming, I make it through the night with the electric blanket on one only lately ... especially with the cat under there keeping me warm also...

doesn't everyone?

[jixel 78]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

i agree with the OP . in sydney i dont see any fords pre EF OR 1994 ANYMORE . AND THATS ONLY 15 YEARS OLD.

Thats coz they started to fall to bits just after they were delivered. EA ED Falcons got old quick. In saying that my XC GXL is much more enjoyable if I leave it a while, you tend to cherish them more. When its tasked with daily duties, it gets tiresome. I mean I dig it, but not every day.

[Mr Brooksy]

I did see an old XB (I think) something today... It looked like an XB crewman of sorts! Never seen anything like it before! I assume its actually a wagon that had the rear removed and a tray attached! It looked very very very well done!

But I see alot more old Falcons down my way! Hardly any old Holdens... must have something to do with all the ships off Newcastle beach... anchers away! Classic LTD!!!

[vztrt]

I see plenty of old Fords around here.

[[Tonko]]

I havent read past the original question but still,

I see a hell of alot more old fords than holdens around here. especially the restored ones. Every day i would see at least 2 XC or older. And thats just by driving through a country town.

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by jixel 78

Thats coz they started to fall to bits just after they were delivered. EA ED Falcons got old quick.

Not the 2 i have had. Or the dozen or so of my friends.. But that must be an anomaly i guees?

[OLDFORDNUT]

im in Hervey Bay QLD and i see heaps of old Fords and Holdens every day

[TheInterceptor]

in the past week, have seen two xy/xw gt's as wedding cars, and about a million HZ HX's.

[302 XC]

I think one thing that hasnt been mentioned regarding older cars in general is their poor economy and most cant run on fairy fuel

The bloke i bought my XC Fairmont off drove it everyday
But the cost of fuel was killing him (pensioner)
He up graded to a VT commondore
Cheaper to run, cheaper on rego , more comfortable and probably more power ???

Then the other issue as mentioned most older models are getting used for donor cars
Even the injected V8 commondores are getting thin for this reason
Parts are out wieghing the cars value

[nb_351]

i drive my clevo zj everyday
not that i see a lot of toher stuff aound though, like a few people have said hz era stuff and utes are still quite common...
that being said, i pulled up next to a zh yesterday in penrith, and still see a few 70s model fords, but not much pre xy stuff...
it is a lot rarer to see a fairlane than a falcon though as someone mentioned before, as they were mostly attacked and scrapped...
every other zj ive looked at has been rubbish...

[Mesa]

As Ryan mentioned, there sweet f/a up in Newcastle.
The X series Falcons (say between XR to XC) are becoming too expensive to buy than the Holden counterparts and are usually riddled with tons of rust. The XW/XY Falcons and XA-XC coupes are a good example as few are for sale and the ones that are generally need a lot of expensive and time consuming repairs. A lot of people seem to hold on to them for years, parked outside with the intention to rebuild but 5 years later they lose interest. By then the cars rotted and rare bits are missing.
The XD - XF's are still farily obtainable cheaply, but again rusty. The oldest I see up here on a regular basis are the EB/EF/EL's.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by kingy351

As Ryan mentioned, there sweet f/a up in Newcastle.
The X series Falcons (say between XR to XC) are becoming too expensive to buy than the Holden counterparts and are usually riddled with tons of rust. The XW/XY Falcons and XA-XC coupes are a good example as few are for sale and the ones that are generally need a lot of expensive and time consuming repairs. A lot of people seem to hold on to them for years, parked outside with the intention to rebuild but 5 years later they lose interest. By then the cars rotted and rare bits are missing.
The XD - XF's are still farily obtainable cheaply, but again rusty. The oldest I see up here on a regular basis are the EB/EF/EL's.

I was in the Foreshore yesterday, and I saw a couple of nice XYs. Actually there's heaps of 1960s Mustangs usually around.

I was driving beside a red one coming home.