Is this copper dumb, dangerous or both? - Page 2

STEALTHY · 16-05-2016, 07:05 PM

Why are you people driving on median strips that it would make him in a dangerous spot?

Trump · 17-05-2016, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Why are you people driving on median strips that it would make him in a dangerous spot?

Because in some states, it is permissible to drive on the traffic island as below:

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Originally Posted by VicRoads website

If a painted traffic island has:

one line (single line) painted around it, you can drive on the island for up to 50 metres to enter or leave the road or to enter a turning lane. But you must give way to any vehicle entering the turning lane next to it
two lines (double lines) painted around it, you cannot drive on the island
a continuous line between you and a line of traffic travelling in the same direction as you (e.g. a freeway on-ramp), you cannot drive on the island.

https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safe.../road-markings

STEALTHY · 17-05-2016, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Because in some states, it is permissible to drive on the traffic island as below:

https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safe.../road-markings

Well aware of that, but that rule is in place for peak times, to keep turning traffic off the main lanes. Clearly not the case in the pic (sure you can use it anytime, but why would you risk a crash when someone is entering the turning lane from the normal spot, and being at fault)

So once again, why would you be driving on that median strip?

Stefan · 17-05-2016, 08:30 AM

I can't see where it says its only on peak times. Even if it did photo was taken at peak hour.

Peter B - CV8 · 17-05-2016, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet

He's obviously been driving Commodores for too long and forgotten how to reverse park.

I can see a good spot on the left. :P

I know that stretch of road very well & that "spot" you mention is actually a functioning traffic lane - with clearway signage. About 70 metres further on the road goes back to 3 lanes (each way).
It's a dick of a spot to park a police car - but who knows what reason/s led to it...

Sprint · 17-05-2016, 12:22 PM

I am more concerned he is making people overtake on the left, this is a fundamental and classic no no in this part of the world. He is obviously bending those rules just because he can with that badge. He needs to set examples, anyone else do that and im sure he would pounce on them with full force.

STEALTHY · 17-05-2016, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

I can't see where it says its only on peak times. Even if it did photo was taken at peak hour.

Who said that? My post clearly said its legal to use any time, but its designed for peak times, when the traffic is banked up. Its clearly NOT banked up in the pic...

Trump · 17-05-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Who said that? My post clearly said its legal to use any time, but its designed for peak times, when the traffic is banked up. Its clearly NOT banked up in the pic...

Do you have evidence to back up your claim of peak-use only?

5.8 · 17-05-2016, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Do you have evidence to back up your claim of peak-use only?

You're quoting Victorian law so its not applicable in NSW anyway.

Trump · 17-05-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 5.8

You're quoting Victorian law so its not applicable in NSW anyway.

I am well aware of that, I was asking if the poster had any evidence to support his claim.

XB GS 351 Coupe · 17-05-2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Do you have evidence to back up your claim of peak-use only?

???

Why would traffic be banked up back to the line marking island in not peak times?? Clearly that would only happen in peak times as any other time there would not be enough cars to bank up that far.

As a matter of fact there is no traffic banked up at all in the OP photo.

Then again all this is irrelevant as someone quoted VIC road rules to make a point in NSW, may be we can find a road rule in South Africa somewhere that someone breached

**Beastie** · 17-05-2016, 04:37 PM

Maybe he had run out of petrol and was trying to stay out of everyone's way?

5.8 · 17-05-2016, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

I am well aware of that, I was asking if the poster had any evidence to support his claim.

Silly me, I just couldn't understand why you were using Victorian Law to have a shot at a NSW copper.

XB GS 351 Coupe · 17-05-2016, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Because in some states, it is permissible to drive on the traffic island as below:

https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safe.../road-markings

But the photo ws taken in NSW

Pretty irrelevant argument....

Trump · 17-05-2016, 04:46 PM

The rules are the same in NSW:

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Originally Posted by RMS

Painted islands

You must not drive on a section of painted road that is surrounded by double lines. You may drive on a painted island surrounded by single continuous or broken lines to enter or leave the road, or to enter a turning lane that begins immediately after the painted island for up to 50 metres.

You must not drive on areas surrounded by double lines.

When you enter a turning lane from a painted island you must give way to any vehicle already in the turning lane or entering the turning lane from another marked lane. You must not stop on a painted island. In some instances, such as giving way to emergency vehicles or when avoiding an obstruction, you may drive on a painted island regardless of the type of lines around the island.

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safe...ic-lights.html

So I'll ask again, where is the evidence to back up the claim that they can only be used during peak hour?

Oh and if any of you that claim your comprehension level is so high, you'd have noticed that I actually wrote "some states" and proceeded to use Victoria as an example of such a state.

5.8 · 17-05-2016, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

The rules are the same in NSW:

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safe...ic-lights.html

So I'll ask again, where is the evidence to back up the claim that they can only be used during peak hour?

Oh and if any of you that claim your comprehension level is so high, you'd have noticed that I actually wrote "some states" and proceeded to use Victoria as an example of such a state.

You're just hanging on too tight mate!!

Trump · 17-05-2016, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 5.8

You're just hanging on too tight mate!!

Usual response is usual.

Moving along...

5.8 · 17-05-2016, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Usual response is usual.

Moving along...

Sorry mate, I didn't want you to go frantically searching the NSW RMS website so you could loosely apply some law to put your point across. You should have just probably done that to start with instead of the half hearted Victorian Law

Trump · 17-05-2016, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 5.8

Sorry mate, I didn't want you to go frantically searching the NSW RMS website so you could loosely apply some law to put your point across. You should have just probably done that to start with instead of the half hearted Victorian Law

Oh be nice, I haven't had my iron today

5.8 · 17-05-2016, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Oh be nice, I haven't had my iron today

Those loud noises are getting louder

Trump · 17-05-2016, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 5.8

Those loud noises are getting louder

Shoosh you

STEALTHY · 17-05-2016, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

So I'll ask again, where is the evidence to back up the claim that they can only be used during peak hour?

Where is the posts that said "its illegal to use them unless during peak"?

Protip, you wont find one from me, because thats not the case and i never said that.

I clearly said, those painted medians are designed (the intention of the people who made them), to keep the main lane clear during peak times when there is alot of turning traffic, so the straight up traffic can move freely.

The OPs pic doesn't have the lanes banked up, so why would you be in that position, and risk being in an at fault crash when someone is entering the turning lane from the normal entry point!

Trump · 17-05-2016, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Where is the posts that said "its illegal to use them unless during peak"?

Protip, you wont find one from me, because thats not the case and i never said that.

I clearly said, those painted medians are designed (the intention of the people who made them), to keep the main lane clear during peak times when there is alot of turning traffic, so the straight up traffic can move freely.

The OPs pic doesn't have the lanes banked up, so why would you be in that position, and risk being in an at fault crash when someone is entering the turning lane from the normal entry point!

Well that's taught me!

Stefan · 17-05-2016, 05:42 PM

OK so old mate is parked in an area that is perfectly legal to use by a road user at any time in the state of NSW.

So yes being stopped there with no lights on is pretty stupid and dangerous and illegal....

only legal way to park there would be an emergency of some type, but then his flashy lights would be on.

sleepisforthedead · 17-05-2016, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

OK so old mate is parked in an area that is perfectly legal to use by a road user at any time in the state of NSW.

So yes being stopped there with no lights on is pretty stupid and dangerous and illegal....

only legal way to park there would be an emergency of some type, but then his flashy lights would be on.

Not to mention if he's on the crest of a hill, with the afternoon sun shining like that..

STEALTHY · 17-05-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

Well that's taught me!

Feel free to post where i said it is illegal to use those lanes outside of peak times ;)

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Originally Posted by Stefan

OK so old mate is parked in an area that is perfectly legal to use by a road user at any time in the state of NSW.

So yes being stopped there with no lights on is pretty stupid and dangerous and illegal....

only legal way to park there would be an emergency of some type, but then his flashy lights would be on.

So you just drive into parked cars, cause you're legally allowed to drive there and its silly for them to park there?

If so, please come drive near my house where 90% of morons buy houses too small, and park their cars on the road instead of the garage. Eventually the road will be clear because you've smashed into them all and they're at the smash repairer.

Stefan · 17-05-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

So you just drive into parked cars, cause you're legally allowed to drive there and its silly for them to park there?

If so, please come drive near my house where 90% of morons buy houses too small, and park their cars on the road instead of the garage. Eventually the road will be clear because you've smashed into them all and they're at the smash repairer.

What do legally parked cars have to to do with a moron cop parking his car in a traffic able area in the middle of the road?

Do I run into parked cars...no

Would I hit this cop, probably not.

Is he parked illegally in a dangerous spot....Yes.

You can twist it as much as you like its a trafficable area and hardly comparable to a car parked on a side of a road.

STEALTHY · 17-05-2016, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

What do legally parked cars have to to do with a moron cop parking his car in a traffic able area in the middle of the road?

Do I run into parked cars...no

Would I hit this cop, probably not.

Is he parked illegally in a dangerous spot....Yes.

You can twist it as much as you like its a trafficable area and hardly comparable to a car parked on a side of a road.

Its identicle, a car parked in an area you're allowed to drive. You're meant to drive around those parked cars.

You're assuming he's just parked there and off doing his shopping. I bet you he has a great reason for being there (and is much better there than blocking the left lane if he just had someone pulled over).

If people are retarded and enter those painted area's when not required (when traffic isn't banked up as the picture shows*), adding more risk to being involved in a crash, then i think they deserve to rear end a marked police car and have a holiday from driving

Will make the roads safer for those of us who know how to drive.

*Thats why if you are driving on the painted area, you must give way to anyone entering the lane from the normal break in the line, cause you know, they only want you to use it when absolutely needed

Stefan · 17-05-2016, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Its identicle, a car parked in an area you're allowed to drive. You're meant to drive around those parked cars.

But different to parking in an area you're NOT allowed to park...

STEALTHY · 18-05-2016, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

But different to parking in an area you're NOT allowed to park...

So because its an area you're not allowed to park, people should just sail blindly into that area? Thats your justification that he is a moron?

Pull the other one mate, theres 100s of reasons there could be something in that area (not even mentioning the obvious emergency vehicle stopped), as to not use it unless you specifically need to (such as when the turning lane is full)!