T3 TE50 or BA GT - Page 2

Yellow Fire · 17-07-2005, 09:41 PM

If it's a daily driver: GT
If it's a weekend toy: TE

Like everyone else in this thread that's just my opinion. In my eyes the TE is more collectable so I'd choose the GT to leave in shopping centre carparks.

Citric GT · 17-07-2005, 09:55 PM

Go for the T3. Even if you decide that its not what you want after a few months you can sell it easily without losing much or any money at all.

GRUNTA · 17-07-2005, 10:50 PM

Simply drive both you'll find thats its not even close

GT by a long long way :king:

Bossxr8 · 17-07-2005, 10:59 PM

There is a pretty big price difference between them, so it all comes down to what you can afford. As for an investment, thats just crap, you will never get your money back on either of them. Sure the T3 was made in limited numbers but its not a GT, which will probably mean it won't ever be massively collectable. By the time they might become collectable there probably won't be any oil left to run them.

GTENVY · 17-07-2005, 11:39 PM

[QUOTE=Bossxr8]There is a pretty big price difference between them, so it all comes down to what you can afford.

Yeah well most of the GT's I've looked at are over $50K by a long shot. I've found some TE50's $45k and below with reasonable kms on them.

BlueRaven · 17-07-2005, 11:46 PM

T3

Simple really. Its more collectable, it looks cool, it goes really really fast and its cheaper.

Casper · 17-07-2005, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

As for an investment, thats just crap, you will never get your money back on either of them. Sure the T3 was made in limited numbers but its not a GT, which will probably mean it won't ever be massively collectable.

Neither were the Cobras, the GS's and the XY Fairmont 351's, all now collectable and still rising in value.
The T's have a long way to go but in another 20 years I have no doubt the last of the W's will be a collectable car. History is known to repeat and the T's fit the criteria of a collectable Falcon...............to a T!

XRchic · 18-07-2005, 02:22 AM

I love both actually. For me it would depend on which one I could get in manual and in black. They are both very different cars, but they both have appeal in different ways. I would really be happy with either of them!

If I could afford it, I would probably get the GT-P in manual and black, but only by a bit. I would probably prefer a Typhoon to both of them actually - goes just as well as a GT and well fitted out and cheaper to buy and run.

Having said that I have driven NONE of them.

Good luck with your decision mate!

4Vman · 18-07-2005, 09:32 AM

Cobras, GS's and XY Fairmonts aren't nearly as collectable as XR-XB GT's, and if you put your purchase price in the bank when they were new and added the insurance and rego costs to that account every year i bet the bank account would look more like the current market price of a classic GT, so they're hardly good "investments" in the true sence.
I wonder what 60K will be worth in 20 years after acumulating interest @5% V market value of a T or FPV car?
As plenty of people have pointed out neither the T or FPV cars are a good "investment".
Buy the car on its merrits for what you want to do with it now, if you want a good "collectable" motoring investment buy an XR-XBGT.
As far as collectability in 20 years goes who really wants to keep one that long "just in case"?
NOT me, i trade my modern performance cars every 4 years to keep them fresh and up to date and put my "keeper" money into REAL collectable classics like the early GTs...
Either way both are great vehicles but the sensible decission will be guided by the wallet.
For my daily driver i just prefer new cars with Factory warrantee's and turn them over every 4 years before they become expensive to maintain, but im fortunate enough to be in a position to be able to do that through my business.

dansedgli · 18-07-2005, 09:51 AM

I agree with the majority if its a daily get a GT. If its not get a TE. Or if its solely a toy buy something faster and better equiped and cheaper for playing in.

GlennBA · 18-07-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GTENVY

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

There is a pretty big price difference between them, so it all comes down to what you can afford.

Yeah well most of the GT's I've looked at are over $50K by a long shot. I've found some TE50's $45k and below with reasonable kms on them.

check on www.carsales.com.au , theres usually a couple on there.

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Noddy · 18-07-2005, 02:55 PM

If its between a mk1 gt or ts50? Go the ts50 if its mint has low klms and is the colour you want, which shouldn't be hard to find with a bit of home work........if its a mkii gt forget the t3.

TICK4D · 18-07-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GTENVY

Yeah well most of the GT's I've looked at are over $50K by a long shot. I've found some TE50's $45k and below with reasonable kms on them.

My T3 TS50, 49,000km's. (have a look in performance ford magazine)
$38,000

PULLY6 · 18-07-2005, 03:08 PM

I'd be going a T3 no wuckin furries. Refined, easy on the wallet, and a stand-out street performer.

dansedgli · 18-07-2005, 03:14 PM

Ill sell you mine for mid 30's if you want a fast toy that looks a lot like a TS50

Cant go past 300+rwkw and custom leather!

Tornado · 18-07-2005, 03:43 PM

Both great cars and both feel very different to drive.
Drive both of them and see which one you enjoy driving more.

I did and I chose the T3.

**FTE217** · 18-07-2005, 03:44 PM

haha then he's got your prob.

Tornado · 18-07-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 012

Tornado might have this info. Although, I beleive he's not in Melbourne ATM, but PM him.. he might let you know once he's back home.

I do have some color build numbers back home.
I have posted them before on the forum but can't find the posts.

I will add them to my website later this week when I get home.

Marlin_Girl · 18-07-2005, 04:29 PM

I'd get the T3... it's different, goes fast and looks hot!!

Smoke Pursuit · 18-07-2005, 04:44 PM

I'd go the GTII with the optional 9 spokes off the Mk1 GTP... In Blue Pearl with Sunroof, Reverse Sensors, FPV wheel and Leather.

T series is a loverly car but a little hard to go back to once you have had a BA, plus they are very hard to find!

MustangNicko · 18-07-2005, 04:47 PM

T3 TS50 5spd FOR SURE!!!

Im saying this because i dont think im worthy of the GT badge yet, plus ive always had a soft spot for the T3's, especially after driving one

Des · 18-07-2005, 05:04 PM

If they couldn't sell the T3's when new, what makes you think people will be jumping over themselves now (or in the near future) to buy one? BA GT = investment? I don't think so either....Drive both and buy what's most practicle and comfortable for you and your situation. I did and bought the BA. I found the AU series harder to get comfortable in and the BA better ergonomically all over (NVH and ride for my young son included).
Now the next, if ever, GTHO. That will be an investment.

Casper · 18-07-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Des

If they couldn't sell the T3's when new, what makes you think people will be jumping over themselves now (or in the near future) to buy one?

For the exact same reason that the 300 Cobra's are gaining in value too. They are rare and a performance model.

You do realise the Cobra was a marketing ploy to get rid of 300 coupe bodys that they practically couldnt give away when the XD was about to arrive?

It is VERY rare that a car becomes a good investment, very rare indeed.
For the T3 to be worth it you must a) love the car for what it is and not just for its potential value and b) risk it not being a modern day classic and being worth very little...although history says it will be sought after.

In the end putting your money in proprty, shares or the bank is probably the better bet...but you dont get to enjoy that as much. Grabbing a T3 of $30K now and holding on to it for at least 15 years will see it lose you no money.

I still stick to my original post though. If you want it for fun NOW and have the money... get the GT. Leave the T3 to thouse that have no doubt about its appeal. If you have to ask the question, you want a GT.

Walkinshaw · 18-07-2005, 05:52 PM

T3 TE50 or GT -- GT no question
T3 TS50 or GT -- Well that becomes a much harder decision.

The breaker for me with the TE is the "baboons backside" dash.

Both are fantastic vehciles and it really extends to personal prefrence.

**Falcon Coupe** · 18-07-2005, 06:10 PM

I would take the GT, Ford didn't spend 500 million developing the BA to go backwards.
There may not be a huge difference in perfomance, but the TE is understated and does not stand out as much, the average punter who is not a car enthusiest does not even know what a TE is, which in turn gives a limited base of customers for resale.

Steffo · 18-07-2005, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I would take the GT, Ford didn't spend 500 million developing the BA to go backwards.
There may not be a huge difference in perfomance, but the TE is understated and does not stand out as much, the average punter who is not a car enthusiest does not even know what a TE is, which in turn gives a limited base of customers for resale.

Yet they managed to make the GT slower, handle worse and use more petrol?

Anyways, cars like the RPO 83 were very understated back in the day, no one knew what they were, but they're climbing in value today. And the "Phase 1.5 GT-HO", which was made halfway between PhaseI (300hp 351W) and PhaseII (367hp 351C).. with the same 300hp from a 351C instead of a 351W. They never raced that model though.. but yeah, they're not well known and yet they're worth a fair amount. TE50/TS50/TL50 will be worth alot in years to come.

**Falcon Coupe** · 18-07-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

Yet they managed to make the GT slower, handle worse and use more petrol?

Yeah....slower ok, i have seen a GT on the dyno the same day as a TE, only 55rwkw less.

Steffo · 18-07-2005, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Yeah....slower ok, i have seen a GT on the dyno the same day as a TE, only 55rwkw less.

Dyno numbers are irrelevent. The GT is heavy, in the hands of joe average, its not fast, it doesn't turn well, and due to that extra mass, it uses alot of fuel. Chassis dyno numbers mean SFA, especially comparing two factory cars like that.

Any way, my point was, the T-Series are an investment, should you keep the car for a while, it will be worth quite a bit.

Smoke Pursuit · 18-07-2005, 06:55 PM

Yes but at the same time Steffo it rides alot better then an AU to.. Less issues with IRS as well. Going by alot of people that have owned both cars and are actually in a position to compare them, they seem to think the BA is alot better car.. If it wasn't why would they have bothered spending 30 - 40 grand change over to get one?

Really you can't compare the two, they both have postive and negative attributes, but most will go with the GT for the sheer fact that you just cannot buy a good T series vehicle without looking for 6 months or without paying more then they are worth......

I say if your on a budget of say 30k, then go buy a T Series if you can find one for that money, if you wanna spend 45 - 70 either get a brand new GT or a used one with low kms, either way you won't be dissapointed.

Tornado · 18-07-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Yeah....slower ok, i have seen a GT on the dyno the same day as a TE, only 55rwkw less.

Your not talking about my car and Alexs' car are you ?
You don't mention that his is a modded manual and mine is a stock auto do you.
How many mods does he have(every bolt on that has come out) ?

A stock GT starts off with 40kw more, so really how much better is 55rwkw ????
(was it 55rwkw, I can't remember, it might have been)
This is not what the thread is about so lets not get side tracked.

If your talking about modded cars, the fastest one is the one whose owner has the deepest pockets.

But as I said earlier, drive them both and buy the one that feels better to you and you enjoy driving.