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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Holden have and will never have anything on toyota. I have a AU falcon, love it to death, great room, good econ (LPG) and power. My mum has a Toyota Echo, even better econ (even on ULP) and it has never broken down. She's had it 3 yrs, ive had my AU 5 months and its already gone back to the dealer with bugs several times.
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Those figures I posted were not mine but were from the local newspaper (Daily Telegraphy). The LSx engines are also highly rated in their performance, modability and their fuel efficiency.............(power: fuel efficiency not power: Litre). What other Toyota engine has the same reputation and clout (in drags) as the LSx engines? By the way the L76 (in the VE Holden commodore) has the capability of displacement on demand and VVT. |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bendigo
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just out of curiosity why is there a holden v toyota thread on a ford forum
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Manly
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This toyota will be without a doubt a very sphisticated car. Toyota makes fantastic cars, though interior build quality has been going down over the years, mainly the australian made cars... I currently own a cressida, and love it to death, for its age it has more interior luxuries, and is more advanced than anything holden and ford brought out at the time. If the new toyota was called a cressida and was on a RWD platform I'd buy it over a commodore or falcon any day, but looks as though its not and it will be the VEII for me! Stoney! |
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Perth WA
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Supra has ceased production - though there may be a V10 supercar in the works for lexus. Celica and MR2 have ceased being sold in Aus - both were lacking in power compared to their compeditors (200sx, MX5 (sp at the time?),integra etc) anyway. They should have kept a turbo version. They do have good quality builds just the whole car is somewhat lacking in performance / handling and comfort. They are good but in no area are they the best. The reason they sell so well is that they are cheap to buy, run and service - so lots of fleet sales will automaticaly go to them. The reasons they are selling the most cars per year would be the corrolla (cheap reliable etc boring car), and the hilux. The camry / the aurion will not do too much for sales. Probably soming similar to mitsubishi's 380 with any luck - toyota actually have the money to invest in a RWD platform (or they should use the IS200/300 platform). |
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Eastern Suburbs, Melb
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How can you pick on the Toyota's performance when their cars are clearly not performance driven? I know they have a Sportivo in their line up, but I strongly disagree that they offer this car for it's performance.
And you can't exactly rag out on their up and coming models given you haven't experienced it first hand as yet.. Exciting or not, I think you should all accept the fact that whilst a majority of people here think that the current & new camary and also aurion are boring vehicles - they will sell a load.
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Join Date: May 2006
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Toyota/Lexus V8 305kW from 4.8 litres, Holden 297kW from 6.0 litres, Ford 294kW from 5.4 litres. Which is the least efficient?
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How much is the car that the Lexus V8 appears in? Will you recoupe even 1/50th of the difference in fuel saved $$$.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Fremantle, WA
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[QUOTE=monaroCountry]In the telegraph a couple of days ago showed how much it would be to fill up a car. The toyota camry took $97 to fill up 70L the commodore took $104 to fill up 75L. For the amount of car you get, power and for the amount of space/comfort you get from a commodore those $8 difference is well worth it.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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1. Aurion is the replacement for the Avalon
2. 380 is the replacement for Magna I really like the new 380 GT and Aurion Sportivo and i would buy one but 1 problem. Why did they make them Front wheel drive. All there sport car and commercial car are rear wheel drive. If these car were rear wheel drive i reckon they would have improved sales, more fuel efficient and attract better say from journalist! If i had one of these i would convert the whole drivetrain to rear wheel drive and show the HQ how it should be done to Aussie standard! ![]()
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OK I'm stumped. Efficiency not fuel efficiency was mentioned if this is to what this post refers. Just showing that Holden's 6.0 litre is less efficient than the Ford and Toyota, no mention of fuel usage.
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maybe they should put it this toyota in a race verse the rwd drive ford/holden so we can watch it understeer in corners.
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i fail to see how an ohc motor is technicly more advanced
than a pushrod invented two years appart cummins,cat,detroit all use 4valve per cylinder pushrod, because it's more reliable but ford and oldsmobile had both ohc & pushrod on the market in the early 1900's |
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The effiency to which I refer is the actual efficiency of a motor to produce power and torque in relation to it's capacity. Ford = 54.44kW/litre Holden = 49.50kW/litre Toyota = 63.54kW/litre Thereby in producing power the Holden is the least efficient. Torque maybe a different matter.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Victoria - where being slow & incompetent is considered being "safe"
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They don't handle that well.
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