GTHO III built for Allan Moffat AUCTION - Page 2

Rev28K · 21-01-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

Now Allan Moffat advertises GT radials.
Apparently he and Brock did not get on at all.
Had a massive falling out years ago and also was instrumental in the Brockie Wife beating allegations that surfaced a few years ago.

Was this after they joined up in Group A (and after Moffat crashed the car at Bathurst)?

He has only had nice things to say in the press.

SpoolMan · 21-01-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TATT2

Whos allan moffat?

Just in case your serious
http://www.allanmoffat.com.au/
''Think Ford and you automatically think of Allan Moffat. Although he raced many cars for other car makers throughout his long and illustrious career it will always be his exploits at the wheel of the factory-backed Falcons during the 1970s that will be most celebrated.''

4Vman · 21-01-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

Now Allan Moffat advertises GT radials.
Apparently he and Brock did not get on at all.
Had a massive falling out years ago and also was instrumental in the Brockie Wife beating allegations that surfaced a few years ago.

I don't believe that for one second..

21-01-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TATT2

Whos allan moffat?

I think it may be the dude that made breakfast bars???Is this guy moffar still around.

MRJUCY · 21-01-2007, 08:46 PM

Moff & Brock were mates after they finished racing each other.
Brock went with Allan when he final got Citizenship last year.

RegSpec · 21-01-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

Apparently he and Brock did not get on at all.
Had a massive falling out years ago and also was instrumental in the Brockie Wife beating allegations that surfaced a few years ago.

What utter crap!!!!!
If you think back to when Brocky was killed, nobody heard from AM for two days..... he was so devastated he couldnt face the media

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And, when he finally surfaced, he just choked up and looked like he'd just lost his best friend.
Wife beating allegations.......you've got to be kidding

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As for how much I'd love to have that car...... :eclipsee_
*bionic currently working out how much he can get for wife and kids on white slavery market*

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**Silver Ghia** · 21-01-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BionicXR6T

What utter crap!!!!!
If you think back to when Brocky was killed, nobody heard from AM for two days..... he was so devastated he couldnt face the media

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And, when he finally surfaced, he just choked up and looked like he'd just lost his best friend.

Yeah, I remember seeing Allan at the Sandown PB memorial day on telly, he was fighting back the tears when giving his speech.

In any case back to the subject, regardless of who the owner was or built for, if its a fair dinkum car it would go at a price most of us couldn't nearly afford. Close to $1 m?

I remember back in 1980 there was an article in Wheels that the most collectable car was the Phase 3 GTHO. They were going for around $20,000 back then ( a lot of money then and out of my reach). Proves they were a sound investment.

ltd · 21-01-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev28K

Was this after they joined up in Group A (and after Moffat crashed the car at Bathurst)?

He has only had nice things to say in the press.

I respectfully submit he is doing what Peter's ex wife is doing.
She wrote a book in 2005 on brock and how loveless he was in the marriage etc, as well as how he was cheating on her for years.
After the death of Peter, she has decided to ease up for his memory's sake.

http://www.news.com.au/sundayheralds...21-662,00.html

ltd · 21-01-2007, 10:03 PM

This link details ex Michelle Downes selling a story to New Idea about Peter Brock allegedly bashing her.

http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com....cord_on_brock/

KOUPE76 · 21-01-2007, 10:07 PM

Who cares?

: Back on topic guys.

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So you think it comes with the plates?

TZENU · 21-01-2007, 10:29 PM

Its Funny how there are all these different stories...

I reckon car will go for around the 800 mark if they include the plates

fordAU · 21-01-2007, 11:18 PM

It says that the vehicle was prepared for Bathurst, wonder if it ever saw the track.

FordFalconBF · 21-01-2007, 11:35 PM

Wish I had a time machine and went back to 1971 and bout every colour with full options of the XY GTHO's... I'd be a millionaire.

Cya,
Alan

Psycho Chicken · 21-01-2007, 11:48 PM

Jeez some people have funny ideas on what it'll go for!

F6BF · 21-01-2007, 11:58 PM

Orange ph 3 sold not long ago for $550k

I believe this one has documentation to support it was ordered by allan moffat......cars like this dont surface often and would certainly fetch a record price

Interceptor · 22-01-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by EASYBOSS

WTF when were you born?

1981, but i fail to see what thats got to do with it

MAFIA · 22-01-2007, 02:43 AM

The highest recorded Bathurt Phase 3 to be sold was $750,000.

OLDFORDNUT · 22-01-2007, 10:21 AM

this car will surely beat any before it as far as price goes.

Seagull · 22-01-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 1600GT

since when...??
Moffat drove them. he didnt build them. thats was FSV @ lot 6's job.
if they cant get this well known part right, the rest might be just as suss...

The original Phase 1 was developed by Allan Moffat at his Toorak workshop.

The second paragraph

The famed G.T.H.O was developed for racing and is the ultimate Falcon GT. The prototype was built by racing legend Allan Moffat in 1970 and prepared for the long distance race at Bathurst. Moffat went on to achieve back to back victories in phase II and III versions of the car in 1970 and 1971.

Is only a general comment about the history of the GTHO's it is not saying that this[U] car was raced or built for racing or prepared by Allan Moffat Racing.

I was talking to Allan this morning and he wasn't aware that this car was up for sale. He was supplied with aroad car by Ford Motor Company in 1971.
I will be seeing him tomorrow so I will get any updates.

Grasshoppr · 22-01-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Seagull

The original Phase 1 was developed by Allan Moffat at his Toorak workshop.

The second paragraph

The famed G.T.H.O was developed for racing and is the ultimate Falcon GT. The prototype was built by racing legend Allan Moffat in 1970 and prepared for the long distance race at Bathurst. Moffat went on to achieve back to back victories in phase II and III versions of the car in 1970 and 1971.

Is only a general comment about the history of the GTHO's it is not saying that this[U] car was raced or built for racing or prepared by Allan Moffat Racing.

I was talking to Allan this morning and he wasn't aware that this car was up for sale. He was supplied with aroad car by Ford Motor Company in 1971.
I will be seeing him tomorrow so I will get any updates.

Ahh Seagull, the man who would really know the truth from Alan himself. You relly are the "Club Historian"

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**Sorted** · 22-01-2007, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Seagull

The original Phase 1 was developed by Allan Moffat at his Toorak workshop.

The second paragraph

The famed G.T.H.O was developed for racing and is the ultimate Falcon GT. The prototype was built by racing legend Allan Moffat in 1970 and prepared for the long distance race at Bathurst. Moffat went on to achieve back to back victories in phase II and III versions of the car in 1970 and 1971.

Is only a general comment about the history of the GTHO's it is not saying that this[U] car was raced or built for racing or prepared by Allan Moffat Racing.

I was talking to Allan this morning and he wasn't aware that this car was up for sale. He was supplied with aroad car by Ford Motor Company in 1971.
I will be seeing him tomorrow so I will get any updates.

Thank GOD some one has all the FACTS and not just hear say as alot of members have posted up..............

And as I have said before I will say again, ITS STILL A GTHO III............

Aeron · 22-01-2007, 12:07 PM

That GTHO looks EXACTLY like the one my next door neighbour has. Being an original Phase III he doesn’t drive it very often, but he did take me for a run in it one night. Very nice!!

bathurst77 · 22-01-2007, 01:21 PM

To be auctioned on 25th of march

25th of march is MY BIRTHDAY!
hint hint

know what im saying guys? What a nice surprise this will be from my friends at AFF

you listening guys?

GUYS??????????????

bathurst77 · 22-01-2007, 01:35 PM

Ive had brief discussions with Allan Moffat and read many articles about him and his cars.
Its surprising how little recollection and documentation he has or kept on the various cars. I think the only single car that he held a strong attachment to was his Mustang. The rest were just "tools of trade" and as such you got them used them and got rid of them when they were no longer up to the job.

From what I have learned, it seems that he was basically an employee when it came to racing falcons back in the HO days .

He built and ran the Mustang himself, and put his all into it, but as for the Falcons, he would just turn up and drive "a provided race car" as necessary (a bit like Jimmy Richards does). The falcons were built by the factory team and he was the paid driver. The money he got from the Falcons he used to run the Mustang.

As a result theres somethings he either does not know or has forgotton about the actual logistics of which actual chassis was when etc. He didnt need to know at the time, it didnt matter to him.

Even with the XA-C 2 doors there is still some contention.

4Vman · 22-01-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bathurst77

Ive had brief discussions with Allan Moffat and read many articles about him and his cars.
Its surprising how little recollection and documentation he has or kept on the various cars. I think the only single car that he held a strong attachment to was his Mustang. The rest were just "tools of trade" and as such you got them used them and got rid of them when they were no longer up to the job.

From what I have learned, it seems that he was basically an employee when it came to racing falcons back in the HO days .

He built and ran the Mustang himself, and put his all into it, but as for the Falcons, he would just turn up and drive "a provided race car" as necessary (a bit like Jimmy Richards does). The falcons were built by the factory team and he was the paid driver. The money he got from the Falcons he used to run the Mustang.

As a result theres somethings he either does not know or has forgotton about the actual logistics of which actual chassis was when etc. He didnt need to know at the time, it didnt matter to him.

Even with the XA-C 2 doors there is still some contention.

That's actually a very good assesment... He was a "turn up and drive" professional driver, as good a driver as he was, he had very little to do with the cars themselves.

bathurst77 · 22-01-2007, 02:40 PM

Great! thank you!
Do I get the HO now?

1970galaxie · 22-01-2007, 02:48 PM

There is a story, that I have heard and told many a time since probably the late 70s, that there is a Phase 3 here in Perth which was bought new, and was driven straight home, and has only 20 miles on the odometer.
How true, I don't know. But there are enough people around here who have heard about it.

22-01-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 1970galaxie

There is a story, that I have heard and told many a time since probably the late 70s, that there is a Phase 3 here in Perth which was bought new, and was driven straight home, and has only 20 miles on the odometer.
How true, I don't know. But there are enough people around here who have heard about it.

I have also heard that there is a Red Pepper XBGT that the Moff man done up with FSV as a very special spec car.The car is suppose to be alive in Vic somewhere.It's a 4DR XBGT with a factory roof,that's all that the info i have heard of this car.

GXL078 · 22-01-2007, 03:12 PM

I remember when Moffat used to race RX7s at Bathurst. The old flamethrowers!
The chants amonst the yobs went something like this:
Johnson goes past: "FORD ****"
Brock goes past: "HOLDEN'S SUCK"
Moffat crackles past: "HA HA RICEBURNER"

Ah the memories......

4Vman · 22-01-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XFALCONX

I have also heard that there is a Red Pepper XBGT that the Moff man done up with FSV as a very special spec car.The car is suppose to be alive in Vic somewhere.It's a 4DR XBGT with a factory roof,that's all that the info i have heard of this car.

Is that the one Bill Sancticone put the prototype Phase 5 engine in?