FORD technical service bulletin : ICC touch screen display

[gkhn]

You will need to upgrade your ICC to colour screen and have the video conversion kit which the pi will connect to.
Please also note mk1 colour screen is non-touch.
So you will either control the pi using a keyboard and mouse.
Or have a touch screen overlay on the screen.
Or have USB trackpad which you can mount next to ICC.
It is up to your imagination

Originally Posted by Whiteford

Can you do this on a monochrome?

[JasonACT]

Yep, Ghidra - you would be paying a lot of money to get any better than that. But it takes practice to get good results (knowing what it "just" does for you, and what things you can do to help it work better). Defining your best guess at function prototypes for example makes things much clearer, it can really clean up the de-compiled output. Also knowing, it won't find some functions, because they are not called statically but instead dynamically by a pointer. Quite a bit of guess work is often needed.

[JasonACT]

Sometimes I amaze myself... Having played with the QNX O/S for a couple of years now, I can pretty well follow what's going on in the images from our Ford screen. Searching the Internet though, I had seen the QNX web-site talk about FlashLite for our version (6.4.1 - which is very old) and someone else had found download files for a Logitech Harmony Remote 900 which, you guessed it, runs a slightly earlier version of QNX but on a i.MX21 instead of our i.MX31. Meh, they are basically the same. The download also happens to contain the FlashLite files - and I now have it running on our FG MK2 screen:



Bloody touch-screen interface isn't working though :(

Looks like I'm going to be busy for the foreseeable future working on this.

[jakka351]

https://github.com/sgayou/subaru-sta.../doc/README.md

https://www.blackmoreops.com/2016/06...ms-over-qconn/

[petero1]

Sync 3 runs QNX o/s since Ford went from Win CE on Sync 2 to the Blackberry version of QNX.

Have Sync 3 running in an FGX for a while now, is a lot more responsive than Sync 2 and screen layout is better. Sync 3 does not freeze up like Sync 2 used to do quite often.

Am currently putting Sync 3 into an FG 2010, but will be a lot more difficult than the FGX swap, as lots of wiring changes needed. Install of rear roof DAB+
aerial was lots of fun too!

[gkhn]

What is the resolution of colour 7 inch FDIM of mark 1?
Does it anybody know?
Cannot find anything anywhere.
My only guess is 640 x 480 as it is NTSC based?

[JasonACT]

Touch screen now working (Sumitomo apparently didn't implement a whole lot of QNX stuff with the touch-screen driver, but I have now...)



I downloaded 2.2GB of flash files too, I can't believe how many clocks were made... I like this one the best...



Mind you though, a lot of them do have pretty things behind the clock.

[jakka351]

[gkhn]

Don't gamble & drive please.

Originally Posted by JasonACT

Touch screen now working (Sumitomo apparently didn't implement a whole lot of QNX stuff with the touch-screen driver, but I have now...)

image

I downloaded 2.2GB of flash files too, I can't believe how many clocks were made... I like this one the best...

image

Mind you though, a lot of them do have pretty things behind the clock.

[jakka351]

Originally Posted by gkhn

Don't gamble & drive please.

Yeah! Someone might call the police!

[jakka351]

Hooning through the sun...
In a four-hundred-horsepower sleigh...
O’er the roads we go...
Boosting all the way...

Bells on ford forums ring...
Making spirits bright...
Oh what fun it is to splice and hack...
Jason's o'er the eeprom tonight!

Oh!
Jingle bells, Kayhan Smells,
ASL all the way! (Dont Pay)
Roland yells, Whiteford mispells,
Nigel laid an egg.

Oh!
...what fun it is to ride
In a pcm-tec-tuned sleigh.
Hey!

Jingle Hell, Kayhan On-Sells,
ASL out the way! (Dont Pay)
Hey!

Oh what fun it is to ride...
with red and flashing blue ...
chasing after you!

[JasonACT]

https://github.com/Jasoroony/Ford-Fa...ashArchive.zip

FG2 QNX Flash Player + Samples (NSFW)

Instructions: Extract this package to an empty USB stick. Run the ICC recore command (from the other download here, using an ELM327 with mid-speed switch) to install "layerlaunch" onto the ICC, this program runs "/fs/usb0/layer" whenever you press the ICC touch-screen at the top-left (a 40x40 pixel area). I.E. pressing that small area will now allow a program called "layer" to run off the USB stick, on command. Once installed, and pressed, with the USB stick inserted, "layer" will present a menu with items from within the "swf" folder in the root of the USB stick, that you can select to run. When done, close them by pressing the touch-screen at the top-right (a 40x40 pixel area).

[jakka351]

Originally Posted by JasonACT

https://github.com/Jasoroony/Ford-Fa...ashArchive.zip

FG2 QNX Flash Player + Samples (NSFW)

Instructions: Extract this package to an empty USB stick. Run the ICC recore command (from the other download here, using an ELM327 with mid-speed switch) to install "layerlaunch" onto the ICC, this program runs "/fs/usb0/layer" whenever you press the ICC touch-screen at the top-left (a 40x40 pixel area). I.E. pressing that small area will now allow a program called "layer" to run off the USB stick, on command. Once installed, and pressed, with the USB stick inserted, "layer" will present a menu with items from within the "swf" folder in the root of the USB stick, that you can select to run. When done, close them by pressing the touch-screen at the top-right (a 40x40 pixel area).

Possible to install python in the operating system? Possible to install anything at all linux wise?

[Dalonian]

If people are interfacing with the touch screen and uploading/downloading files, then is it possible to update maps on an FG2 screen? Or will I have to resort to a certain company in Lyndhurst, Victoria?

[regularlyseriously]

Hi I'm new here

Just wondering how you reboot the sync system that has got navigation too in a G6E Turbo 2012?
btw the navigation system is currently stick on saying restarting navigation and also how do you update the sync firmware/maps?

[JasonACT]

Answers to questions...

I did write a software package that upgrades the maps, but my tester never got back to me so I never released it. I don't know, maybe he's using it and he had worked out that I won't release it without feedback, so he's keeping quiet about it so only he has it?

Forscan can be used to reset the FG2 ICC - or you can pull the power. Both have the same risk of the black screen of death. But you can't update the firmware on these yourself, you will need to take it to someone who has both the equipment and the software package.

Yes, it's possible to install lots of Linux stuff, as long as you can work out how to compile it for QNX as some things may need to be changed. Things like compression libs are the easiest to do, they're just data in and data out. Python? Not sure how hard it is to compile that, so maybe it's possible, at least until you get to the operating system interfaces / libraries. But then all interfaces inside these units are already in-use except the serial port going to the GPS module, and only if you don't have the high-end unit. That's the one I'm using for "everything" with multiplexing drivers. So I have a bunch of virtual serial ports hanging off the one physical one. I'm not sure what the killer-app would be to install on these though? Except VNC maybe, which I've already done, but it's quite slow.

[FPV414]

Originally Posted by JasonACT

Answers to questions...

I did write a software package that upgrades the maps, but my tester never got back to me so I never released it. I don't know, maybe he's using it and he had worked out that I won't release it without feedback, so he's keeping quiet about it so only he has it?

Forscan can be used to reset the FG2 ICC - or you can pull the power. Both have the same risk of the black screen of death. But you can't update the firmware on these yourself, you will need to take it to someone who has both the equipment and the software package.

Yes, it's possible to install lots of Linux stuff, as long as you can work out how to compile it for QNX as some things may need to be changed. Things like compression libs are the easiest to do, they're just data in and data out. Python? Not sure how hard it is to compile that, so maybe it's possible, at least until you get to the operating system interfaces / libraries. But then all interfaces inside these units are already in-use except the serial port going to the GPS module, and only if you don't have the high-end unit. That's the one I'm using for "everything" with multiplexing drivers. So I have a bunch of virtual serial ports hanging off the one physical one. I'm not sure what the killer-app would be to install on these though? Except VNC maybe, which I've already done, but it's quite slow.

Is your tester Whiteford Tech? Lol


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[jakka351]

Originally Posted by JasonACT

Answers to questions...

I did write a software package that upgrades the maps, but my tester never got back to me so I never released it. I don't know, maybe he's using it and he had worked out that I won't release it without feedback, so he's keeping quiet about it so only he has it?

.

Sorry I was distracted by all the egregious amounts of cash I am making updating everyone maps.

[jakka351]

Originally Posted by JasonACT

Answers to questions...

Yes, it's possible to install lots of Linux stuff, as long as you can work out how to compile it for QNX as some things may need to be changed. Things like compression libs are the easiest to do, they're just data in and data out. Python? Not sure how hard it is to compile that, so maybe it's possible, at least until you get to the operating system interfaces / libraries. But then all interfaces inside these units are already in-use except the serial port going to the GPS module, and only if you don't have the high-end unit. That's the one I'm using for "everything" with multiplexing drivers. So I have a bunch of virtual serial ports hanging off the one physical one. I'm not sure what the killer-app would be to install on these though? Except VNC maybe, which I've already done, but it's quite slow.

But instead of installing things to it, and the outdated hardware, it may be better to port the QNX to a raspberry pi, then in combination with a bit of extra hardware, you have a complete replacement unit.

[twistgrip]

so.....now that i've browsed through 26 pages of jargon that makes absolutely no sense to me...what do us nuff nuffs with black screens do ? pay these companies what they demand & hope it never happens again i guess is our only option

[russellw]

Originally Posted by twistgrip

so.....now that i've browsed through 26 pages of jargon that makes absolutely no sense to me...what do us nuff nuffs with black screens do ? pay these companies what they demand & hope it never happens again i guess is our only option

Pretty much. I'm about to order my 2nd replacement screen but I'll add the extended warranty this time.

[Tazzi]

Originally Posted by russellw

Pretty much. I'm about to order my 2nd replacement screen but I'll add the extended warranty this time.

Has anyone tried searching the part numbers on the LCD screen themselves? Unit has C080VW02 on it.. quick google shows replacements can be bought fairly cheap:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3300...8dawia2cW&mp=1

Or

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3232...8dawia2cW&mp=1

When messing around with the MK2 ICC's a few years back, I did try swapping a screen from a working unit into a another which was no good (The actual physical LCD) and it did light up. So... Id assume its the actual LCD screen which is failing and not the circuit board its attached to.

Guess its an option for anyone game enough to try a cheaper alternative.

[jakka351]

Originally Posted by Tazzi

Has anyone tried searching the part numbers on the LCD screen themselves? Unit has C080VW02 on it.. quick google shows replacements can be bought fairly cheap:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3300...8dawia2cW&mp=1

Or

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3232...8dawia2cW&mp=1

When messing around with the MK2 ICC's a few years back, I did try swapping a screen from a working unit into a another which was no good (The actual physical LCD) and it did light up. So... Id assume its the actual LCD screen which is failing and not the circuit board its attached to.

Guess its an option for anyone game enough to try a cheaper alternative.

The MK1 Monochrome FDIM is a bulletproof replacement, highly recommend fitting it in place of a failed MKII FDIM. You will need to purchase my MK2>MK1 conversion loom though, which is priced comfortably at $995.95.

[Tazzi]

Originally Posted by jakka351

The MK1 Monochrome FDIM is a bulletproof replacement, highly recommend fitting it in place of a failed MKII FDIM. You will need to purchase my MK2>MK1 conversion loom though, which is priced comfortably at $995.95.

Didn’t realise the MK1 FDIM would work in place, that’s kinda incredible to be honest!

[gkhn]

MK1 colour screen is bulletproof too.
Haven't seen or heard one fail.
I have both in case my MK1 colour screen fails
Do you give discount to ford forum members?

Originally Posted by jakka351

The MK1 Monochrome FDIM is a bulletproof replacement, highly recommend fitting it in place of a failed MKII FDIM. You will need to purchase my MK2>MK1 conversion loom though, which is priced comfortably at $995.95.

[Tazzi]

Originally Posted by Whiteford

The screen itself is only one of the failure points in these units (and rarely do the screens themselves fail) but good find for anyone who has punched a hole through theirs in frustration...

Odd. Could be something as simple as a voltage regulator failing, or even a Zener diode giving out which is shorting to ground. Both of which require some basic probing of the circuit board when powered up.

Guess I was one of the rare ones then, since I used the actual LCD and not the FDIM circuit board. Be interested to hear if anyone else tried out a screen only change.

[JasonACT]

I can neither deny nor deny that.

[FPV414]

Originally Posted by JasonACT

I can neither deny nor deny that.

Lol. I was a bit perplexed as to why you and others are doing so much work and that bloke essentially in his marketing passes it off as his own development and charges people for it.


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[FPV414]

Originally Posted by Whiteford

I too can only deny any involvement as I am, just an ordinary guy.

Ordinary men don’t hide behind pseudonym’s. Lol.


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[jakka351]

Originally Posted by FPV414

Ordinary men don’t hide behind pseudonym’s. Lol.


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Says someone posting from a pseudonym. I can't post your real name, but you can.