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Can you still get vw, ivecos whatever in a cab chassis? So van front tray back?
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BLUE OVAL INC.
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ETA on the truck ordered before I started in August was December, still waiting as of Friday. |
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BLUE OVAL INC.
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We have a number system allocated to our customers yet when the pickers have put together an order it gets put on racks designated North, South, East, west, City and Country. The order sheet has the address on it but its then up to the picker to work out where that suburb fits in those 6 area's. Ok for the lifers but anyone geographically challenged would find it hard to know where every suburb fits that zoning system. Not a day goes by when the drivers dont complain about orders or parts of orders not in the correct place and the time wasted spent looking for it can mount up. I suggested within the my first 2 weeks that they try using what they already have in big font on the labels and which is fairly hard to get wrong, the bloody customer number. Put all the orders starting with a 1 together, 2's together, 3's together etc. etc. then the driver looks at the customer number on his run sheet and goes to that rack, no need for guessing where suburbs fit in the zones just the ability to count from 1 to 10 and identify those numbers. Nah mate, we like this system we have. Well thats because if your pickers stuff up the driver eventually fixes it, doesnt matter the cost or inconvenience. |
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I owned a VW Transporter T4, short wheelbase 5 cyl petrol 95 RON, front wheel drive, it was the most comfortable van I have owned, did the Melbourne, Sydney, Perth trip once, was second hand 100,000 klm on it, then drove back to Sydney, then moved to Perth, dident miss a beat, but had a mechanic do the timing belt, big no no, should of taken it to VW only mechanic.
Took it up to Newman and everywhere between, I used it as a camper not commercial, but the most beautiful ergonomically designed interior than anything I've owned, beside my Corvette of course, but you must change the engine oil every 5000 klm or they rattle! ![]() |
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BLUE OVAL INC.
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Well, lets just say, if someone orders light blue and gets lime green Im quick to tell them Im just the guy carrying the brown carton, I dont pick it or look inside. I take great pleasure from throwing them under the bus, damned if Im apologising for them, the key to not losing the customer is doing it in a manner that leaves us both having a chuckle at their expense. That they dont even know how incompetent they are viewed is the bonus. |
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No Bent you just dont get it.
Transport rule number 1 Blame the driver Transport rule number 2 Blame the driver etc etc etc Hell I,m now working as an unpaid volunteer 2 days a week driving minibuses carting elderly sick and disabled people to shops doctors hospitals etc. It still goes on. The seat cushions are foam expired bloody uncomfortable. Vans have done 150000km plus. At least 2/3 times a day the schedulers give the driver 15 minutes to do a 30 minute job. So you start running late. And later. And later. Work for free and still get fxxd about. And I ve been there 3 months and the lady who hands the keys and run sheets over at start still doesnt remember my name. Next week I go in with a white cap with my name stencilled on top in large letters. If anyone askes me should I go into the transport industry the answer is no! |
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I'd be more concerned about the lack of full size pallet load restraints in a van and its abitiy to shift its weight around corners, something you are always well aware of in a truck.
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So im 3/4 of the way through my first day evaluating the Staria Load.
Is it any good? If you used it for what I assume it was designed for, a people mover, threw 2 rows of seats and half a dozen kids into for the Wife to do short trips in, go for it. Has plenty of go, trans is smooth, packed full of safety and tech but thats where it ends. I learnt to drive in a Cortina, have owned over 100 cars and driven hundreds if not thousands more during my working life not to mention trucks and buses. The Staria is without doubt the most uncomfortable thing Ive had to endure, I literally had to get out and straighten my back after 20 minutes behind the wheel and have tried every seat position available to no avail. It has zero lumbar support but a head rest and upper seat design that leaves you in a C shape hunched over, add road undulstion and it is a recipe for a work cover claim. I dont even care to drive it tomorrow, would rather the old Hilux. |
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The thing about my VW Transporter was it suited my long legs?
It was like sitting on a kitchen chair, so I could touch the pedals and my under thigh was still touching the seat, I did not have to lean to operate anything, it suited my long legged frame, lumbar support after 3 serious spinal surgeries and kneecap removed was brilliant, I honestly could not fault that van, I drove across the Nullabor 3 times and only stopped for fuel, dident have to stretch or anything, it was like moving around the country in your favourite armchair!.. ![]() |
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Just arrived back in Adelaide from Murray Bridge via Birdwood and I am fair dinkum white knuckled from gripping and fighting the wheel.
It has lane assist etc. But its far too aggresive compared to the Sprinters. It wants to steer for you only it tends to oversteer and you end up over the dividing line 20m befote the bend, then if you happen upon a vehicle coming the other way it freaks out and tries to correct that leading to an unsettling almost tank slapping sensation. Then the next bend you prepare for the aggressive oversteer and it dors nothing so you play catchup from understeer. Horrible bloody thing best suited to shopping duties with constant weight in the back. |
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But the T6 seats are not great not great at all. The Crafter has proper supportive seats with multiple adjustments |
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It clearly confuses itself, probably ok in slower urban settings but on narrow winding roads at high speed it struggles. I told them when I got back I wouldn't be driving it again tomorrow, I'd rather drive the older generation Hiace and rely on my skills and attention to the task. |
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Drove mine everywhere including many a client paddock filling it full of granite. Couldn't kill it.
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Just don't drive it in cross winds.
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![]() My colleague recently bought a Mitsubishi Express for her gardening business. Her budget was very small which meant shopping at this end of the market. Vans are either bought brand new, or bought after having been worked to death, which does limit choice. For the money she wanted to spend, she was looking at HiAce's with 300,000 - 400,000 km or Express's with 200,000+ km. This example had about 210,000 km on it with some minor panel damage. For what she needs it to do, it will serve her well. Knowing the constraints of her budget, I didn't want to come across too negative regarding the terrible driving manners and questionable safety. The truth is, all vans in that price and age bracket are just as bad. ![]() These "Mercedes-Benz" MB140's would most certainly be one of the worst cars I have ever had the displeasure of driving. These were made for Mercedes by Ssangyong as an entry level van to sit below the Vito. ![]() There was nothing about the MB140 that was deserving of the three-pointed-star. Many fell for them though. At 100 kph the engine would be screaming at 3500 rpm and combined with the road noise, a conversation was simply not possible, or even listening to the radio! They rolled to the point where they felt like tipping over, would nose dive massively under brakes and the engine was a non-turbo diesel with not a single kW to spare, turning the A/C off did actually act like a turbo. Vans of late have come so far. I could never understand why vans never came with sufficient safety equipment. These are vehicles that people spend a lot of time in, shouldn't safety have been a priority for those who are being exposed to potential accidents more than the average commuter?
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You would imagine the average "man in white van" should have more professional driving experience than Joe blow public hence knowing how to avoid having accidents. I for one never bought a truck / van back in the day (or now) thinking about driving off a having a crash like everyone today rattles on about. I guess its just the cotton wool squad keeping us all safe from ourselves now.
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![]() Mercedes Vito and Sprinter were game changers when they hit the market, finally someone in the segment who had a van which was comfortable to drive and stopped properly. |
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I watched a Chasing cars YouTube review of the Mercedes-AMG E53 2022 coupe yesterday and the reviewer made a point of saying , in his opinion, it's active safety tech like lane assist etc..was calibrated such that it didn't intervene aggressively and probably sets the bar for others that just cannot get it right at the moment. |
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Reckon we could have some fun darting around in front of these new "safety" cars in our s**tbox fleets Franco !
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I have a dual cab transit and it's bloody fantastic. all the safety gear, 2.0 diesel and 6spd auto. it does have adBlue which is a pain but I think you'd struggle to find a van that doesn't these days. I totally understand the supply situation but I guarantee these are worth waiting for
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The l300 i had before the ranger was a much easier thing to work out of. The ranger was a single cab with a tub and a canopy, so whilst an infinitely nicer car, it sucked to work out of. The triton i had after the ranger had a service body on it. Way better then the ranger to work out of, but the van had so much more space back there. |
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Wouldnt matter anyway as I was over it before I got part way through the day, too uncomfortable for a 6'3" person like myself as to get leg room it requires the seat fully back which then forces the seat back almost verticle due to the cargo barrier which combined with the forwatd projecting headrest leaves you feeling like your about to fall forward. Combine that with the terribly jerky hill descent control feature of the cruise control and then in any position there is simply a lack of lumbar support. The seats position wouldnt be an issue in the people mover version as theres no cargo barrier to dictate seat back angle however there is also no reach adjustment on the steering column so to get a correct arm posture with slight bend at the elbow requires you to lean forward creating that 'C' shape I alluded to and associated lower back pain. I barely slept last night as once I got home and relaxed the back stiffened up and felt worse, took panadiene forte at 3am and almost called in sick for the first time since I started. Back in the old gen Hiace today and at the half way point having travelled the exact same route and zero discomfort, still have the same return route as yesterday to go so its an excellent opportunity for comparison although I already know the answer. If I cant persuade them to look at the Crafter style vans I'll be pushing for a new Hiace for the extra frontal protection at a minimum. |
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