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and as far as the cerfew, if an approximate time was set, and you were out later than that and pulled over but could prove your travelling home from work, a level of leniency could be alllowed by police. as far as the 5 star rating car, what would you suggest...that we build cars out of cardboard because it might do damage to something else?
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Plus, whats the fun in going out and then havnig one person sober?
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as jeremy clarkson wrote recently...
maybe an iq test for licence applicants. taken from his article (earlier in the article he was talking about public toilets, and how messy they are): "So why do we let stupid people have driving licences? Seriously, if you cannot be trusted to get your faeces into a bowl that is at least 50 times bigger than your anus, then why should you be allowed to try to steer a six-foot-wide car at 60 or 70mph, just inches from other people. I want you to think about this. The latest figures suggest that 18 per cent of fatalities on the roads 2004 were caused by drink driving. And that 34 per cent were caused as a result of excessive speed. This means that 48 per cent were caused by people who were stone-cold sober, and travelling well within both their limits and those of the car." he then suggests that an iq of 100 be needed before obtaining a licence. food for thought.
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If someone can't control themselves behind the wheel of a car they shouldn't have a drivers licence period. Lets say there was a limit. Would you like to have 3x as many P-Platers on the road (Which would increase the road toll accordingly)?
As for 5-star I wouldn't go that extreme. I would just slowly introduce higher and higher manditory safety rating for all new cars sold in Australia (Start at 3 or 3.5 to stop the holden death traps). A sudden change is the wrong way.
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Or maybe people should be able to speak english first............
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Different point of view but a good one
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BAFalconXT - whats the english reference reffering to?
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i am 18 on my Ps and i will not give up my V8 for the power to weight ratio, i luv it im not a hoon and have big plans for my car. the way i see it is if i spend money on my car i wont spend it on drugs, just my point of view
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i can tell you now i do not know where they got there information from but the stats for 2006 have not been released yet and any information is PRELIMINARY and is subject to change. also the stats for 2005 are in the proccess of being finalised as we speak. the daily telegraph have gotten half the information and created the other half.
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basically.... DAILY TELEGRAPH needs to get its facts right.!
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Your no drug stand is commendable though.
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Polyal I won't say I drive around like a granny becuase I don't. But when I am DD I won't go off and be stupid.
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Both cars get hooned! One will oversteer from boost, the other will oversteer from the 165 tyres!
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Longer hours with an aproved driving school I think would be a better solution. My brother had a 120Y and on his P's he pulled out to early and he could not accelerate out of the way, then bang, I think underpowered cars are in fact more dangerous then high powered.
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Its those average joes that need the help, and unfortunately its wrong, and to hard to just make laws to suit one particluar group of people.
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must be a sign...im next...lol
half of those p-platers you could say had it coming.(in the bluntest way possible) MOST however did not deserve it. i honestly dont think its a matter of banning the car its a matter of banning the DRIVER. like for every k over that that many hours of community service then multiplied be the passengers, and if over the alcohol limit its chained to a wall for 3 weeks getting fed a piece of bread 3x a day. speed doesnt kill, its the idiot behind the wheel and the neglected car that cant handle it.
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well maby they should make a advance driveing course befor you get your Ps?
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That 120Y issue has more to do with your brothers decision than the car.
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The only solution in my mind would be what they have a bike riders. Drivers training to get your L's in the first place (Sif you learn anything putting along the road at 20km/h) and more driver training and each stage of your licence.
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They should base licence disqualifications on at fault accidents. There is nothing stopping someone crashing their car every week. But someone who has never crashed in their life and speeds all the time will loose their licence.
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Hopefully that happens, as I agree, living in a country where you can even speak a little of the language is dangerous and a joke.
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i just got a reply back from one of the reporting officers on the NSW stats data. and to date there has only been an increase of 3... ONLY 3 crashes for p platers. there has been a significant increase in 17-20 year old deaths. and as i have said before and many other i think the major increase does not specify in what category these poor souls died. it could be a pedestrian, could be in a car with an unrestricked driver. Daily Telegraph is full of ****. there is nothing wrong with the current system and it does not need to be changed.
Parents are the ones who need to be educated. if the parents drive like a nut and the kids see that they are influenced, also if the child learns how to drive like a nut while there learning, who else is in the car. the parent or the instructor. and if they let them get away with it then i wonder what attitude they will develop when they get older. not saying that its the parents fault completely but they have to accept some responsibility. IMO... back on topic. daily telegraph have writen that article so crypically.
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I have been in that situation, but only because I know I can get myself out it if it was to go pear shaped.
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put em in a car and crash into a wall like test dummy at low speed of course, if that dont scare the crap out of them, nothing will.
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very tru but there has go to be a outher way than takeing away my power :(
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and i dont think you will be affected due to you already having your licence. the media wants the impossible.
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lets not forget they have lengthened the amount of time people now spend on p-plates and figures go up, geez go figure. Let me guess figures for normal drivers went down or stayed the same.
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