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Its not just now though its every year, and every 2 seconds on TV there's some deaths on the road and it gets huge news coverage.
Its always police are doing this operation, Police urge motorists to take care on the road Four people have died in an accident There's been a spike in COVID deaths too, because prior to 2019 it didn't even exist ![]() |
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![]() The first magistrate was somewhat sympathetic towards me but explained that the law said she must take my licence for 12 months, the problem with mandatory minimums is that it takes away the ability for a magistrate or a judge to make a judgement call on something, thats where the lawyers work their magic on things like assaults and all that sort of stuff. The second magistrate on getting licence back acted like I took a **** on his pillow the night before ![]() Luck of the draw who you get, thats why its key to have legal representation who knows the magistrates and how they behave/what they particularly don't like. |
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They don't like clean cut people with jobs, children they have custody of, and no face tattoos.
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There's two spots that have overtaking lanes, in about 30km worth of road, then theres another two spots where its broken lines that are safe spots to overtake where you've got good visibility of oncoming traffic. They always put the speed cameras in the two safe spots to overtake, but not anywhere in the rest of the highway where its double lines/dangerous to overtake. Oh and this is where the police had a speed trap set up when I got done, I was a bit too enthusiastic on an overtake: ![]() ![]() Yeah, no ****, imagine the area with the overtaking lane with the wire rope barrier in the middle of it dividing both sides of the highway, that there's only two of in 70km worth of highway being the area people go over the speed limit overtaking? We've had about 30 locals die on this stretch of highway, because of poor road user ettiquette and ****ty enforcement of speeding in the safe spots to overtake, so everyone runs the gauntlet and does the double lines overtake. ![]() 30 days impound - less enthusiasm in the overtakes these days ![]() Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 04-01-2024 at 08:03 PM. |
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are they all accidents, why does noone question some of these accidents may be suisidal driving.
We had one out of Whyalla few years ago. Driver in question...."now Iam ****ed, tried to run my car into that truck and kill myself, instead I bounce off the truck and hit the car behind killing 2 people".
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Yeah Tonz a fella at school did that, deliberately. Didn't really know him, he wasn't too approachable. He had troubles, my memory of their place is walking past and just hearing him in a screaming match with his old man
Just veered right, into a truck on the Brand somewhere north of Gingin. It's so long ago now, quarter century, but I remember.
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Reminds me of when they have the CIA guy Mike Baker on the Joe Rogan podcast and he talks for 15 minutes and says absolutely nothing. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 05-01-2024 at 01:07 AM. |
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Worth noting that one of the early Victorian fatalities for 2024 is allegedly the result of poor driving choices by someone who has no interest in following laws.
I say allegedly because it’s sub judice. But new laws will achieve zero results with this type of alleged offending. |
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Case in point. Other day on ring road leaving Melbourne. Vicious rain and massive flooding on grass verge and right half of adjacent lane. Me in left lane (headlights on shock horror) sitting on about 80. clown in empty ute towing large empty trailer goes past about 100ish. Hit a huge puddle and empty trailer rises and becomes pointing towards me (I saw him in side mirror and lifted off because it just didn't look safe). Massive caravan type fishtailing. Absolute miracle he / she held onto it.
Had it gone badly...straight across the verge into guardrail and then across all lanes. Possible roll over. Possible fatality? My point being 0 adjustment for driving to conditions. I could have an accident this afternoon but have been driving since 89 and total repairs one VB commodore front bar due to slight rear end. |
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Not much for some of the other States to be smug about either.
While Victoria recorded a 22.3% increase, NSW wasn't far behind with an increase of 19.8% to 351 and a rate per 100k of population that increased from 3.588 in 2022 to 4.209 in 2023 although that's still below the National average of 4.730. Queensland had a 6.7% decrease with 277 fatalities and a rate per 100k population of 5.074 - above the National average but below the 5.582 in 2022. South Australia was the worst of the States with a 64.8% increase in fatalities to 117 and a rate of 6.319 per 100k population compared to only 3.898 in 2022. In fairness, the 2022 figure of 71 deaths was the lowest ever recorded and the 2021 rate was 5.492. WA also improved with a 10.7% reduction to 157 deaths and the 5.454 rate per 100k is a drop on the 6.268 in 2022, albeit still above the National average. Tasmania also improved with a 33.3% reduction to 34 deaths and the 5.936 rate per 100k is a drop on the 8.931 in 2022, albeit still above the National average and with 2022 being the worst year since 2009. NT had the biggest improvement with a 38.3% reduction to 29 deaths and the 11.486 rate per 100k is a drop on the 18.783 in 2022, albeit almost three times the National average. Figures for the ACT aren't available yet.
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Worse thing they can do now is knee jerk reactions, like reducing streets to 30kmh and country roads to 80kmh....which is what is being talked about.
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Look at the difference of crash performance of 1990s Falcons and Commodore vs VE/FG. ![]() ![]() That's 10 years between those two cars. |
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https://x.com/9NewsMelb/status/1743531046228877557?s=20 Last financial year, $150M worth of fines the state government collected, its a nice addition to the kitty. |
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Both my daughter and my Mrs done on that one.. Both “alleged” 67kph And both are what I’d call your typical “driving Miss Daisys”… The Mrs infuriatingly so! (I continually get smacked for commenting “are we there yet” when she’s driving!) Both beat the fine with old “magic letter” and both now aware it’s there so they’re on the brakes all the way down Canning St hill (both directions) I’d love to test out how fast you’d register if you totally stopped at Canning St/Military Rd lights, select neutral and just let car roll down Canning St through that camera?.. Guarantee it’d be over 60 kph! I was under the impression that cameras weren’t permitted on inclines? Or does that only apply to mobile cams?
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![]() Sir, people are waking up to the fact these are in-fact revenue raising devices I've seen mobile cameras on the Calder Freeway along the rise of Girvans Hill south bound I think it is, cheeky pricks trying to get people accelerating up the hill. |
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Seems the “hill rule” was in a previous lifetime!
https://www.drive.com.au/news/new-ru...l-in-victoria/
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Wodonga-Beechworth rd at Leneva another, down, down through the bends into the valley's straight away and boom there they always are.
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As for the Milleara Rd camera mentioned above, my dad was one of the many caught...he's still sore about it.
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She’s never lost a point in 50 yrs of driving, was furious and wanted to challenge it in court. After her (me!) writing obligatory “apology letter”, she checked the letterbox daily for the month or so it took for a response! So, I spose you could say that it had the desired effect?
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same only 38 years and I was a courier once !
Never saw it on the Old Hume Hwy between Benalla and Wangaratta, 100km zone done for 102km but points don't worry me in Vic. NSW licence. Law states if you spend more than 3 months per year in NSW you must have one there. It was fun during the pandemic explaining the Vic plates and NSW licence. Geeze we have some stupid laws in this country.
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I’d like to know how long it takes to verify the majority of detections.
Assuming it’s extremely quick, why can’t people opt in for an SMS alert of being detected, that informs in almost real time? |
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In my case the phone doesn't work real well between country towns anyway.
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And not a damn thing we can do about it!
They have the perfect arguments!… If it’s low road toll.. “speed cameras (sorry, “road SAFETY cameras”) are the driving force behind the decreased toll and working” If it’s high road toll… “we need to decrease speed limits and introduce more cameras” Got us on toast..
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