Covid 19 -

[russellw]

We've been talking about hospitalisation rates falling along with case numbers and while the rate of growth has slowed, the percentage of new cases hospitalised has actually increased substantially last week to 0.929% (from 0.570% the previous week).

The same applies to ICU admissions up from 0.061% to 0.100% although 'adjusted' deaths have fallen from 0.064% to 0.052%.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by b0son

Vaccine side effect timeframes are measured in weeks, not years.

Check out "Pandremix H1N1 vaccine children narcolepsy". Vaccine came out in 2009 / 2010. Wasn't until about 2018? that a link was made. Big payout in the UK.

I experienced short term "heart irregularity" 3 weeks after my first jab, Pfizer. Docs did a test and just fobbed it off as "heart awareness"....another way of saying "its in your head". I think I know my body, but OK. Nothing after the 2nd. So yes, I'm a little apprehensive going for multi shots.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Check out "Pandremix H1N1 vaccine children narcolepsy". Vaccine came out in 2009 / 2010. Wasn't until about 2018? that a link was made. Big payout in the UK.

I experienced short term "heart irregularity" 3 weeks after my first jab, Pfizer. Docs did a test and just fobbed it off as "heart awareness"....another way of saying "its in your head". I think I know my body, but OK. Nothing after the 2nd. So yes, I'm a little apprehensive going for multi shots.

I had my 3rd or booster dose last week, it was at the behest of the WA Dept of Health, it was 2 weeks earlier than the recommended time frame for Pfizer.
Because my overall health is shocking, mainly due to having a lung ripped out 7 months ago, I could have side effects and not really know it, but I did notice one side effect on the first 2 doses, massive insomnia, but the booster nothing but a stinging ****!...

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Check out "Pandremix H1N1 vaccine children narcolepsy". Vaccine came out in 2009 / 2010. Wasn't until about 2018? that a link was made. Big payout in the UK.

"In August 2010, The Swedish Medical Products Agency (MPA) and The Finnish National Institute for Health and Welfare (THL) launched investigations regarding the development of narcolepsy as a possible side effect to Pandemrix flu vaccination in children"

So, became apparent within a year. And Pandemrix was only 31 million doses, compared to 10 Billion doses given of the various Covid vaccines.

This case sort of backs up that if there is side effects (as were identified with all Covid Vaccines, which include the ones you had) they are identified and risk assessed quickly. Covid vaccines are now probably the most tested and checked vaccines ever.

[arm79]

Interesting read for those who have interest in adverse affects statistics from the vaccine.

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covi...ort-20-01-2022

If I read correctly there have been 1288 likely cases of myocarditis and pericarditis to date out of 32.1m does given. The likely is then broken down into 3 levels of assurance.

Thrombosis from the AZ vaccine is reported as 2 per 100,000 people on the first dose and .3 per 100,000 people on the second. It says there were 13.7m AZ doses given, so assuming a 50/50 split of first and second dose, that would mean there were around 138 people who suffered reactions. At worst case without splitting the doses, at a rate of 2 per 100,000, that works out to be 274 people.

The rest of the reports would fall into sore arm, headaches, etc, etc.

[Pooka]

Originally Posted by russellw

data valid as at 00:00 gmt january 23rd 2021.

48,742 new cases for Australia and 58 deaths so the CMR is 0.142%.

According to our Deputy Prime Minister, people 'aren't dying' from COVID in Australia.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coro...e-covid-dying/


And the Liberal Government is not responsible for the shortage of RATs in Australia.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...CGh?li=AAgfYrC

It's the Australian publics fault! If people just stop buying RATs, there'll be plenty of them in the stores!

[CoupeKing]

I posted this before.

Most of it has bore fruit.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

I posted this before.

Most of it has bore fruit.

I know who you are, won’t click link

[b0son]

Their mathematical extrapolations were comedy gold. I'd expect nothing less from a pair of quacks (they're osteopaths, not doctors).

[EgoFG]

So an update from 'the land of the free (sic)' - Atlanta

Wife+I double Moderna + Pfizer booster, Kids (teens) both double Pfizer no booster.
Wife never gets sick, Son and I get everything that is going around, Daughter is in the middle. I am probably in three risk categories (overweight, chronic sinus infection, over 55)

Two weeks ago -
On the weekend I start azrithromycin for a chronic sinus infection.
Daughter gets a little ill on a Monday evening, Temp Tuesday 102, then starts to recover. Think nothing of it.
Tuesday I am exhausted after 3k return walk to the grocery shop, get early night.
Daughter continues to improve, mild flu symptoms
Wed, Thursday I can only work 3 hours, then my brain stops. muscle aches, mild flu symptoms - Continue thinking nothing of it - it is winter here.
Thursday Wife and Son both start the day with a slight cough. Friday I am largely recovered, daughter a little behind me.
Friday Son seems quite unwell, temp 102, Then Saturday 104 decide to get PCR covid test, Wife seems to have mild flu.
Sunday Son's test comes back positive decide to get PCR for wife
The result comes in positive on Tuesday
Wife and son start to improve. Now 9 days after first symptom for daughter, and 8 days after first symptom for me, we guess we also had covid, get quick test (serology?) for Daughter and I, both negative, so for fun on Friday I get PCR test - comes back negative.

The above timeline may be out by a day here and there but this is correct:
Wife and Son are almost symptom free now after about 10 days of bad flu type of disease, daughter had normal/mild flu symptoms for only 6 days, I really only had very light flu-like symptoms for 3 days.

[tweeked]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

I posted this before.

Most of it has bore fruit.

In the first 30 seconds. "From a ER Physician Entrepreneur perspective"!!!!!!

Covid safety effecting the entrepreneurial attempts of these two. Damn hold the order on the new S Class Merc.........

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by EgoFG

So an update from 'the land of the free (sic)' - Atlanta

Wife+I double Moderna + Pfizer booster, Kids (teens) both double Pfizer no booster.
Wife never gets sick, Son and I get everything that is going around, Daughter is in the middle. I am probably in three risk categories (overweight, chronic sinus infection, over 55)

Two weeks ago -
On the weekend I start azrithromycin for a chronic sinus infection.
Daughter gets a little ill on a Monday evening, Temp Tuesday 102, then starts to recover. Think nothing of it.
Tuesday I am exhausted after 3k return walk to the grocery shop, get early night.
Daughter continues to improve, mild flu symptoms
Wed, Thursday I can only work 3 hours, then my brain stops. muscle aches, mild flu symptoms - Continue thinking nothing of it - it is winter here.
Thursday Wife and Son both start the day with a slight cough. Friday I am largely recovered, daughter a little behind me.
Friday Son seems quite unwell, temp 102, Then Saturday 104 decide to get PCR covid test, Wife seems to have mild flu.
Sunday Son's test comes back positive decide to get PCR for wife
The result comes in positive on Tuesday
Wife and son start to improve. Now 9 days after first symptom for daughter, and 8 days after first symptom for me, we guess we also had covid, get quick test (serology?) for Daughter and I, both negative, so for fun on Friday I get PCR test - comes back negative.

The above timeline may be out by a day here and there but this is correct:
Wife and Son are almost symptom free now after about 10 days of bad flu type of disease, daughter had normal/mild flu symptoms for only 6 days, I really only had very light flu-like symptoms for 3 days.

I always thought it was a product of past karma, that would explain it if you are inclined to think a " little off centre "

Hope you all pull through happy and healthy

[Pooka]

How did people who were eligible to receive their free RATs go yesterday? Did you manage to get any?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...Q6E?li=AAgfYrC

[russellw]

Australia
NSW records 18,512 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 09205 (from 0.8752) while the actual line is almost level with the predictive trend line.



VIC records 14,836 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9574 (from 0.9038) while the actual line is now above the predictive trend.



Here is the predictive trend graph for three States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st. Note that Queensland numbers are a day behind the other two States.



As it was the end of our week on Monday, here are the weekly case numbers with NSW having 45k more cases then Victoria last week although Victoria recorded 91,855 less cases than the previous week while NSW recorded 119,079 less.

[slowsnake]

Originally Posted by Pooka

How did people who were eligible to receive their free RATs go yesterday? Did you manage to get any?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...Q6E?li=AAgfYrC

I just left my GP's office an hour ago here in Perth, he said they have them in stock for $15 each, but concession card holders will be able to walk into a chemist shop and get 1 test for free, but he said the details for that are still in the pipeline, he said should be all go within a week, I am assuming they are nutting out preferences as lots of different concession cards available, so young healthy unemployed compared to an aged pensioner may get preference but not sure yet he said, but his surgery has em now in stock $15 per test kit!

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Pooka

How did people who were eligible to receive their free RATs go yesterday? Did you manage to get any?

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...Q6E?li=AAgfYrC

Parent's circle of friends all got them. They were still available late into the afternoon at our local chemist.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT January 24th 2022.

42,441 new cases for Australia and 40 deaths so the CMR is 0.141%.

NZ recorded 75 cases and 0 deaths for a CMR of 0.333%.

The UK recorded 94,397 cases and 74 deaths for a CMR of 0.965%.

562,793 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,644 deaths sees CMR at 1.231%.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 354M;
Europe passes 115M cases;
Asia passes 95M cases;
North America passes 85M cases;
South America passes 46M cases;
USA passes 72M cases;
Italy passes 10M cases;
Spain passes 9M cases;

Bhutan (162);
New Caledonia (805);
Somalia (1,066);
Algeria (2,215);
Palestine (3,620) – the previous high (2,884) on 8/4/21;
Estonia (5,040);
Kuwait (5,176);
Jordan (11,478) – the previous high (9,535) on 17/3/21;
Peru (18,797); and
Russia (65,109)

... all recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and Mozambique drops below.

[russellw]

It's still January and we've already surpassed the 2020 COVID death toll (911) with 935 thus far but that's based on more than 60x as many cases as we had in 2020 so the raw CMR is much lower at 0.050% compared to the 3.064% of 2020 or even the 0.356% of 2021. Indeed, even the adjusted CMR of 0.097% is much better than either which is just as well given we have already had just over 5x as many cases than we had in all of 2021 because that's 6,656 extra people who otherwise would have died if the rate was the same as 2021!

Can't even play along anymore Russ

Apparently we hit the peak on the Goldy yesterday, yet Brisbane won't until the middle of next week ?

Hmmmmmmm

[CoupeKing]

[b0son]

Now you're posting Thomas Renz??? The guy is an ambulance chaser, trying to make a fast buck off spurious covid-related lawsuits. Seems totally impartial...

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by b0son

Now you're posting Thomas Renz??? The guy is an ambulance chaser, trying to make a fast buck off spurious covid-related lawsuits. Seems totally impartial...

No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.

- Mark Twain.

[T3rminator]

Its been twice now where I've been in the same house, mingling with someone who was not 100%, and they later tested positive. And neither time has it been transmitted over. *touch wood*


Three household COVID-19 outbreaks, three different results: Why some exposed people don't catch Omicron
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-...reak/100770502

[b0son]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.

- Mark Twain.

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/mar...uote-is-false/

is this what passes for 'doing your own research'?

[russellw]

Australia
NSW records 21,030 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9630 (from 0.9205) while the actual line is now above the predictive trend line.



VIC records 14,836 cases in the current period and the 10-day average growth rate increases to 0.9574 (from 0.9038) while the actual line remains above the predictive trend.



Here is the predictive trend graph for three States based on cases since Omicron was identified which, for our purposes, will be taken as December 1st.



One of the things that should be of concern is the rapid increasing mortality numbers. Yes, the percentages are low with a National CMR of 0.052% (raw) and 0.101% (adjusted) but we're about to pass 1,000 deaths for the YTD, yet we only had 1,323 for all of 2021.

[russellw]

Data valid as at 00:00 GMT January 25th 2022.

45,996 new cases for Australia and 64 deaths so the CMR is 0.141%.

NZ recorded 62 cases and 0 deaths for a CMR of 0.331%.

The UK recorded 154,356 cases and 440 deaths for a CMR of 0.962%.

670,050 new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,867 deaths sees CMR at 1.223%.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 358M;
Europe sets a new daily high with 1,626,689 cases;
Africa sets a new daily high with 71,298 cases;
Europe passes 116M cases;
Asia passes 96M cases;
USA passes 73M cases;
India passes 40M cases;
France passes 17M cases;
UK passes 16M cases;

Algeria (2,521);
North Macedonia (2,332);
Palestine (4,095);
Bahrain (4,360);
Moldova (5,138);
Estonia (5,145);
Kuwait (5,742);
Latvia (6,097);
South Korea (8,566);
Jordan (11,813);
Bulgaria (12,399);
Georgia (15,762);
Serbia (19,901);
Romania (19,685);
Finland (29,529);
Czechia (30,350);
Denmark (43,734);
Russia (67,809);
Israel (83,739) on 23/1;
Germany (148,408); and
France (501,635)

... all recorded new highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

Azerbaijan and Mongolia move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period while Zambia and Kenya drop below.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by russellw

One of the things that should be of concern is the rapid increasing mortality numbers. Yes, the percentages are low with a National CMR of 0.052% (raw) and 0.101% (adjusted) but we're about to pass 1,000 deaths for the YTD, yet we only had 1,323 for all of 2021.

Russell, Just out of Curiosity.
Have you done any Modelling to see where the death rate is (hypothetically) Headed...????

[b0son]

Originally Posted by russellw

One of the things that should be of concern is the rapid increasing mortality numbers. Yes, the percentages are low with a National CMR of 0.052% (raw) and 0.101% (adjusted) but we're about to pass 1,000 deaths for the YTD, yet we only had 1,323 for all of 2021.

Way more cases, and a large chunk of those deaths (up to half AFAIK) are the unvaxed. If they dont mind the risk, I dont mind the deaths. Sorry, but you can lead a horse to water and all that.

The other thing is timing. 2021's outbreaks were late in the year. 2022's is right at the start. We may have no more after this, especially if subsequent variants are omicron-derived and likely even less deadly.

[slowsnake]

This is what the rest of Australia is up against, who knows what makes this dude tick!

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by slowsnake

This is what the rest of Australia is up against, who knows what makes this dude tick!

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Not really up against it as most of us don't give a toss what happens there.