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It's like the foreseen prediction for an extinction of a famous Australian animal with a specific death date for the last remaining animal and nothing can be done about it.
Will this mean our falcons will go up in value in the future like the Australian Valiants?
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Press Release from Ford Website
http://www.ford.com.au/about/newsroo...=1249024395989 Quote:
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Glad people on here aren't giving Ford a free pass and blaming the buying public for everything. The onus is on a company to bring a product to market, promote it, make it competitively priced/equipped and not least make it relevant to what people want.
Ford have failed to do this on the Australian made products. Even recently they responded to the opposition leader's visit and opinion that Territory was a great car with an attitude that it was just all to hard to bother to export. Ok, sounds like the decision was already made but I found that really negative by Ford. With a 3 year lead time, hopefully it will give workers time to reskill and make other arrangements. And I'll buy Australian made after 2016 , Holden or Toyota. Guess this theory that automotive will collapse if any of the big 3 left will now be tested. |
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Well said Snout.
I know this is a Ford site and many will get nostalgic and teary eyed, but at the end of the day Ford is a business, and when an arm of a business ceases to be viable, it gets chopped. Life's a *****.
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Graziano confirms ford AU cost structure "double that of Europe".
Shoots down the myth of cheaper wages than Europe/Canada etc people on this forum have been banging on about. |
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And most manufacturing plants need volume to reduce the cost structure. Im suprised that the cost structure of the Ford AU plant which only made 30,000 cars last is only double the plants which pump out 250,000 cars a year. |
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Yes but he said tonight on channel 2 7:30 that the assumption was based on "scale" something I have been saying for a long time. The less cars you build the dearer each car costs, especially from a labour perspective. He went on to say our labour costs are consistent between Europe and Australia but less so in Asia.
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This is what happens when governments force Australian companies to compete on a level playing field. Sadly the field was anything but level.....
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What a ridiculously simplistic assessment of the situation.
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Big cars are on the way out...people said in in the late seventies, and it proved to be false. People said it in the eighties and nineties, and it was sort of wrong. But it's been downhill this century..."small" cars aren't that small anymore...medium cars are as large inside as "big" cars used to be in Australia. Despite claims to the contrary from enthusiasts, buyers couldn't care less if a car is front wheel or rear wheel drive, as long as it's well equipped and drives nicely and, importantly, is priced sharply. |
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It aint' over till the fat lady sings and that more than 3 years away. Seems like an incredibly long term announcement for a business. The 2014 updates are still happening too... Surely that means the decision is not final? It's so sad, I love my Territory, It's rear wheel drive it's fantastic on a long country drive and every time I drive anything else (hire car etc) I am reminded just how good my Territory is. I won't be buying anything other than Australian, if they stop making them I'll just stay with what I have for good or buy second hand.
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It's a very long lead time, which is actually good for workers as it gives them time to make alternative arrangements. Far better than a shock 'overnight' announcement. That said, Ford will be using the next few years to work towards a 'sales only' business in Australia. That doesn't happen overnight.
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I'm not teary eyed as we knew it would happen one day. Shame though.
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Man..I just have so much anger at Ford NA right now its numbing. If they come out with a GWRD sedan within the next couple of years I will flip out.
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I wonder how long before Holden makes a similar announcement. I would think that Holden would have to review their options for local manufacture now Ford is going to be out of the picture as they will need to increase the overseas content in their vehicles as local supplier prices will increase quite a bit as they raise costs to cover the loss of Ford business. That's if the local suppliers can survive without Ford.
This is not a good sign for the continued local manufacturing of cars in Australia. |
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Our "Australian motor industry" for many many decades consisted of bolting together CKD kits from overseas makers...any reason it can't again...?
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Why have your CKD kit assembled by Australians when a SE Asian country can do it for far less?
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Falcon nameplate finishing in 2016, not being carried over to import model.
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aaaaaaaaaand the dollar dips further
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So does 30% more product mean we will definitely get Mustang? And possibly Taurus and F-truck? Mustang on sale for a reasonable price would be a small consolation for losing our beloved Falcon.
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Not the first company to close down , sadly probably wont be the last, no one will continue banging their head against the wall trying to make a dollar when the they can import cars cheaper, i just heard on the radio over period x ford oz lost 600 million dollars, the next question is will holden or toyota be next?
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