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Old 31-10-2006, 04:38 PM   #1
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My cars playing up again, similar to how it was at the start of the year. Its developed a steamtrain kind of exhaust flow, where it kind of putts along in short outbursts of exhaust air.

This morning it hardly started and once i got it going there was white smoke coming out of the exhuast for quite a while, not normal condensation smoke....

I filled up with Bp Ultimate yesterday morning, and ive done 100k's since i filled up. A mates dad said the ultimate may have cleaned something out thats caused a block in one of the fuel injectors, could this be the case??

Any advice would be a huge help as the car can not be taken out because it feels like it wants to stall when it idles at the lights.

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Old 31-10-2006, 05:26 PM   #2
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white smoke= oil i think

is your car idling nice? (what are your leads.plugs.rotor button like?)
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Old 31-10-2006, 05:31 PM   #3
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White smoke is water IIRC and blue smoke is oil.
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Old 31-10-2006, 05:45 PM   #4
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hope its not a blown headgasket :S sounds like the symptoms of one....
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Old 31-10-2006, 05:48 PM   #5
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hope its not a blown headgasket :S sounds like the symptoms of one....
have to agree there sounds like headgasket to me too
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Old 31-10-2006, 06:18 PM   #6
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white = water or its just really cold wereva u live :P
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Old 31-10-2006, 06:43 PM   #7
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Could be HG, is water coming out of the exhaust? Or just the steam?

BTW, ive never heard of an e series being 100%
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Old 31-10-2006, 06:56 PM   #8
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you're talking about cars in general al...
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Its drinking water like there's no tomorrow, had to fill up the coolent before because it was almost empty, considering it was over half full at the start of the week. The Idel seams to be okay, its really reall weird.....
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fill the water up and go for a drive, it definately sounds like HG from here, if it chews through the water then get on ebay and look up what EL XR heads are going for...look at the positive!
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Oh no, really sounds like a head gasket :S
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Its allready done a HG, how often do they blow??
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Could be HG, is water coming out of the exhaust? Or just the steam?

BTW, ive never heard of an e series being 100%

Driplets of water, and heaps of white smoke.....

Dads going nuts, saying its not HG :
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Old 31-10-2006, 07:57 PM   #14
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best way to tell is pull out the spark plugs (it will most likely be number 6 which is leaking) and if the plug is brown it means water has been getting in there. basicly the cylinder will get water in it making it hard to start and the steam out the exhaust is because there is water getting into the cylinder.
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Another vote for the headgasket.

Head off, clean it up, heavy duty springs, big cam, AU gasket :sm_headba
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Confirmed Head Gasket, getting towed to the shop tomorrow for a repair.....
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Bad news, typical e-series. Hope that will be the last one.
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That sucks Paul. When was the headgasket last replaced? Was it done on the cheap?
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Its allready done a HG, how often do they blow??
the 3.9 and 4.0 motors are commom in blowing the head gasket. They usually last to 100k I thought at least
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It can really vary. My uncle's EL has done 200,000 and has already blown two while my EAII blew it's first and only headgasket at 230,000. My parent's EBII has also done about 230,000 and hasn't blown one.
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That sucks Paul. When was the headgasket last replaced? Was it done on the cheap?
The last one was replaced by for about 4 years ago when the car was at about 150 000k's. It's just ticked over 195 000k's now.
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Heres the car going for a ride this morning, this way saves petrol i guess.....

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Are u getting some headwork while its off?? Good old port and polish job...
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Are u getting some headwork while its off?? Good old port and polish job...
Not that i know of, moneys pretty tight as it is. Best to get the problem fixed first. Might be getting a Cam done i think _2:
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The last one was replaced by for about 4 years ago when the car was at about 150 000k's. It's just ticked over 195 000k's now.

damn that blew quick !!! they must have done a shitty job.
go with the AU gasket option as everyone seams to be going this way and hoipfully it will last more than 45,000k
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how much is the head gasket costing you to replace labour inclusive??????

Mine hasnt done a head gasket yet 230000kms....... touch wood
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I saw CRANRS in pieces today, almost brought a tear to the eye :(

Hopefully she'll be back and cruising better than ever soon
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I saw CRANRS in pieces today, almost brought a tear to the eye :(

Hopefully she'll be back and cruising better than ever soon
The cars in the best hands going around so i am sure it will be back on the road very soon, as you mentioned Ryan better than ever!
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The cars in the best hands going around so i am sure it will be back on the road very soon, as you mentioned Ryan better than ever!
Yep, wouldn't take my car to anybody else. Well... except G&D ;)
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where you getting it done cranners?
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