Petrol Price crisis......

[DJR-351]

[MITCHAY]

Just had a quick look at PetrolSpy and even though it is two long weekends in a row and many would have taken off next week, even cheaper than before I last filled up with 98. WTF?

[JasonACT]

Election. Lib's cut the tax sending a real message to the petrol stations, pretty sure they don't want Labor voted in, bad for business... See how the numbers look in 5 weeks.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by JasonACT

Election. Lib's cut the tax sending a real message to the petrol stations, pretty sure they don't want Labor voted in, bad for business... See how the numbers look in 5 weeks.

I have a guzzler v8. Assume I save $20 per fill, fill up twice a week, that would be $40 a week in savings. Run that across 8 weeks from tax cut to election date, that's a total saving of $320. Most people would save less due to having more efficient cars. Its quite worrying that $320 could sway a vote that will have an impact for years to come.

Haven't really noticed groceries bill dropping either, but then again I hadn't noticed that they had spiked before the fuel cut. I have however noticed that eating out has gone through the roof!

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I have a guzzler v8. Assume I save $20 per fill, fill up twice a week, that would be $40 a week in savings. Run that across 8 weeks from tax cut to election date, that's a total saving of $320. Most people would save less due to having more efficient cars. Its quite worrying that $320 could sway a vote that will have an impact for years to come.

Haven't really noticed groceries bill dropping either, but then again I hadn't noticed that they had spiked before the fuel cut. I have however noticed that eating out has gone through the roof!

Regarding grocery prices, I heard on Triple M that while the government cut the fuel excise, they also cut the diesel rebate freight companies got. (no idea if it’s all companies that got it or depended on size) So fuel for them actually got more expensive initially.

Eating out has been more expensive since we opened up again. Serving sizes are down and prices are up. And now places are expecting tips too.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

Eating out has been more expensive since we opened up again. Serving sizes are down and prices are up. And now places are expecting tips too.

Local Cafe charging $18 for a cheese burger, and $9 for raisin toast, $9 for Banana Bread and

The joys of living in a 'tourist' area.

Don't eat out any more, bought a proper coffee machine, and stay at home now.

Mastered the coffee, better than the cafe now.

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Local Cafe charging $18 for a cheese burger, and $9 for raisin toast, $9 for Banana Bread and

The joys of living in a 'tourist' area.

Don't eat out any more, bought a proper coffee machine, and stay at home now.

Mastered the coffee, better than the cafe now.

This is why I only purchase meat from good butchers.

[kevino]

Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

Local Cafe charging $18 for a cheese burger, and $9 for raisin toast, $9 for Banana Bread and

The joys of living in a 'tourist' area.

Don't eat out any more, bought a proper coffee machine, and stay at home now.

Mastered the coffee, better than the cafe now.

Yeah these cafe food prices are just rips.
And they seem to make so much money they only open 6am 2pm or thereabouts.
A six inch subway is $5.95/$7/95 depending on franchise and the odd bakery as opposed to a cafe will still sell sandwiches at $5.50 to $7.50.

Interesting cafes charge 9 and 10 bucks for the same stuff.

i get a $15 lunch allowance on the Gc working as a volunteer, my coffee is $4.20 (small) then leaves me $10.80 for food for a 9/10 hour day.
Gets tricky so I m finding all the value places.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

Regarding grocery prices, I heard on Triple M that while the government cut the fuel excise, they also cut the diesel rebate freight companies got. (no idea if it’s all companies that got it or depended on size) So fuel for them actually got more expensive initially.

Eating out has been more expensive since we opened up again. Serving sizes are down and prices are up. And now places are expecting tips too.

True...

https://bigrigs.com.au/index.php/202...l-tax-credits/

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by JasonACT

Election. Lib's cut the tax sending a real message to the petrol stations, pretty sure they don't want Labor voted in, bad for business... See how the numbers look in 5 weeks.

Yes they cut the excise but they don't control the retail price. That cut had already worked it's way through the system before I filled up last time.

It always goes up long weekends but somehow cheaper now than before

[JasonACT]

I'm not sure it had worked it's way through, prices had gone up early (as usual) but they were on notice to drop them quickly.

Likewise, I'm not sure the $320 saving is what the petrol stations are thinking, just that at this unstable time (for them) it's best to keep the boat steady... Give it those 5 weeks though.

I've abandoned my less favourite lunch places that are now $15 a meal too. Except one, they actually do a pretty good curry... But I'd noticed they also reduced the quantity of meat in one meal when the price rose. I persisted and it was a one-off, possibly they got complaints, and/or otherwise they would have been abandoned too. I buy cheap sandwiches on the days I skip the old regular places, I can afford to lose some weight.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by JasonACT

I've abandoned my less favourite lunch places that are now $15 a meal too. Except one, they actually do a pretty good curry... But I'd noticed they also reduced the quantity of meat in one meal when the price rose. I persisted and it was a one-off, possibly they got complaints, and/or otherwise they would have been abandoned too. I buy cheap sandwiches on the days I skip the old regular places, I can afford to lose some weight.

Great food and value lunch places in Canberra are the Treasury and Dept of Finance buildings opposite each other near the Art Gallery.
Two heavily subsidised government cafe's no wonder public servants don't eat out much.

Diesel and 91 looks to be gradually falling again here.

[LG17]

What an absolute rip off.
Had to go down to Brisbane for a couple of days and while 91 was down in the dollar fifty mark, diesel was still up in the dollar nineties.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by LG17

What an absolute rip off.
Had to go down to Brisbane for a couple of days and while 91 was down in the dollar fifty mark, diesel was still up in the dollar nineties.

Still cheaper than a bottle of Coke!

[LG17]

Originally Posted by hackney

Still cheaper than a bottle of Coke!

Nothing to do with a bottle of coke.
It's about the disparity between the two fuels.
Everyone knows that diesel should be cheaper than unleaded and not 40c dearer.
It's another rip off.

[Dr Terry]

Originally Posted by LG17

Nothing to do with a bottle of coke.
It's about the disparity between the two fuels.
Everyone knows that diesel should be cheaper than unleaded and not 40c dearer.
It's another rip off.

True, but isn't it odd how Coke is so expensive compared to fuel generally.

Dr Terry

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

True, but isn't it odd how Coke is so expensive compared to fuel generally.

Dr Terry

It always has been, so has rum and many other spirits and beers, there’s absolutely no correlation

Mind you, if cars ran on coke, we would have switched to batteries decades ago

[GASWAGON]

A good article here explaining our fuel supply issues!

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/wh...235847262.html

[roddy1960]

As of yesterday our local has dropped 98 to $2.04 , 95 to $1.99 and 91 to $1.85 ... Things are looking up a bit ..

[jpd80]

There’s absolutely no fuel shortages anywhere in the world yet OPEC jumps the price up
and then equally astonishingly, the price can fall 50-60 cpl in a week or so just like that.

Amazing how much control oil companies have over countries and peoples lives,
yet most still embrace the addiction to their products at every opportunity
because the alternatives still seem nonsensical….

By the way, big oil is getting mighty ticked off with China switching to so many electrics so quickly,
me thinks they see their massive sales and profits disappearing permanently…….

[T3rminator]

Honeymoon might be coming to an early end. Whilst most stations are still showing $1.5x ULP in the inner east suburbs, I did just drive past a shell that had $1.92 ULP! The next Mobil station had cars lined up.

Shell has in the past had sporadic jumps for no obvious reasons, so it could be a one off.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

Honeymoon might be coming to an early end. Whilst most stations are still showing $1.5x ULP in the inner east suburbs, I did just drive past a shell that had $1.92 ULP! The next Mobil station had cars lined up.

Shell has in the past had sporadic jumps for no obvious reasons, so it could be a one off.

No thats just usually how it operates in Melbourne, random 40c/L jumps on 91 overnight.

Then takes months to drop that 40c/L

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

No thats just usually how it operates in Melbourne, random 40c/L jumps on 91 overnight.

Then takes months to drop that 40c/L

I have seen occasions where a rogue station, usually Shell, will raise it by 40cpl, whilst everyone else in the area stays the same. Then a few days later, that same rogue station will drop it back in line with the rest. Then a week later, everyone raises it 40cpl.

Its almost like they are sending each other some sort of signal

[mick taylor]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

I have seen occasions where a rogue station, usually Shell, will raise it by 40cpl, whilst everyone else in the area stays the same. Then a few days later, that same rogue station will drop it back in line with the rest. Then a week later, everyone raises it 40cpl.

Its almost like they are sending each other some sort of signal

That's the same here in Brisbane, it's Shell first to up the price and last to put it down. followed by BP as the next worse. but I like BP and Shell fuel the best.

Originally Posted by jpd80

Coke to fuel price comparison is something that d***head mate
brings up in a conversation and everyone else goes what?

What ?

[FairmontGS]

Has dropped to $1.49.5 for 91 in Earlwood today

[Dr Terry]

$1.46.8 in Greenacre this morning.

Dr Terry

[MITCHAY]

I just checked PetrolSpy now and it is down to $188.9 for 98 around here.

While the excise cut makes a difference, it doesn't fully explain these prices. ACT doesn't have a price cycle like the major cities.

Definitely hitting that **** up though as I'm down to 1/4 tank

[sprintman1]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I just checked PetrolSpy now and it is down to $188.9 for 98 around here.

While the excise cut makes a difference, it doesn't fully explain these prices. ACT doesn't have a price cycle like the major cities.

Definitely hitting that **** up though as I'm down to 1/4 tank

Cheaper at Costco (Mobil 98).

[jpd80]

I’ll stick to plain old 91 for $1.51