VFACTS April 2024

[smoo]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

The argument for diesel has always been the torque, but modern turbo engines do that too. As for the 2.2 I have, that torque is only available at 1800 revs and nowhere else, it's got nothing up to that point, nothing after it. So its sh.t to drive, noisy when you need to rev it out and painfully slow everywhere, downright dangerous in some situations. The engine in that vehicle lets the whole show down, I'm otherwise very happy with the thing.

Apparently the above is what customers want.

I don’t think they’ve ever had more torque, that’s just a commonly parroted myth from decades gone by due to the ultra short gearing of diesel powered LV.
A good comparison might be a TD42 and 1HZ against an E series SOHC.
Even in turbo form those diesels are average in torque. 24v 1hdt and FTE with intercooler are ok.
Put that gearing behind a Falcon 4.0 and there will be no traction in the first three gears in the dry.

Diesel only got good around turn of the century Mercedes 3.2 and BMW 3.0 160kw and 500nm which shat on the alternative 6 and 8 cylinder petrol engines in economy and real world performance and only using EGR for emissions control.

Franco, why not a Falcon Ute?

[oldel]

Originally Posted by smoo

Franco, why not a Falcon Ute?

'cos he wanted one for $4k, anything more than that was drug money.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by oldel

'cos he wanted one for $4k, anything more than that was drug money.

Absolutely, a bag is around $300 and these people think their rusty XG Falcon is worth $10K

[DFB FGXR6]

Ford Numbers -

Ford Escape – 29
Ford Everest – 2400
Ford F-150 – 173
Ford Fiesta – 0
Ford Focus – 0
Ford Mustang – 1
Ford Mustang Mach-E – 42
Ford Puma – 77
Ford Ranger 4x2 – 480
Ford Ranger 4x4 – 5089
Ford Transit Bus – 4
Ford Transit Custom – 253
Ford Transit Heavy – 100
Ford Total – 8648

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Ford Mustang Mach-E – 42
Ford Puma – 77

lol

In before all the 'stock issue' comments - they don't seem to have issue getting stock of the cars they actually want to sell

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Ford Mustang – 1
Ford Mustang Mach-E – 42

Mach E outsold its ICE cousin. Substantially. Surprised we haven't seen that as a headline

[oldel]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Absolutely, a bag is around $300 and these people think their rusty XG Falcon is worth $10K

Nah, I thought you were after a 1 tonner BF/FG for next to nothing.
I've got a shitty BA XLS one tonner that was a ford owned vehicle, bought from geelong with a tray. Problem is that the previous owner put a tub on it!
Also the previous manufacturer did a shit paint job on it! (shockwave). Because of all it's issues it only has 145k kms on it.

If they aren't worth anything then I'm not spending 4k on a good tray or 2k on a cab only DIY paint job I guess.