Serp Conversion

InitialD · 31-12-2005, 12:47 AM

Im thinking of doing the serp conversion to my car since

* A/C needs to be reinstalled anywho
* 70amp Mitzi doesnt cut it, 110amp is needed for all the crap going into the car
* Power Steeringpump is crappy.

Now most stuff I need can be sourced from work I assume, but I need to know exactly what I need...

Alternator
Harmonic Balancer
Idler Pully?
A/C Compressor
Power Steering pump
Belt (Obviously)
EF Timing cover

Also I remember there being some issue with having to get a XH1 Tensioner?

Thanks

EFFalcon · 31-12-2005, 12:49 AM

talk to Dave, he did it :P

InitialD · 31-12-2005, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

talk to Dave, he did it :P

oh Thanks for the Info, I never guessed.

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EFFalcon · 31-12-2005, 12:55 AM

so who better to talk to then someone who did it first hand? :P

31-12-2005, 12:55 AM

If you put your mind to it you can accomplish anything......

InitialD · 31-12-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by John_xr6

If you put your mind to it you can accomplish anything......

Hey doc Brown, get back to the Delorian, marty needs to get back to 1955 to get the Sports almanac from Biff

InitialD · 31-12-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by EFFalcon

so who better to talk to then someone who did it first hand? :P

I like to get as much information in regards to this BEFORE I start doing it.

Ill check with you next time before I start a thread :P

31-12-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by InitialD

Hey doc Brown, get back to the Delorian Biaaatch

manual delorian!

EFFalcon · 31-12-2005, 01:04 AM

gee sorry mick, suggesting someone to talk to is a big no no now.
remind me not to reply to ur threads then

Damo · 31-12-2005, 01:05 AM

88 miles per hour!!!

EA2BA did this conversion too, but from memory there was some issue where his car wouldn't start or something. :P

InitialD · 31-12-2005, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Damo

88 miles per hour!!!

EA2BA did this conversion too, but from memory there was some issue where his car wouldn't start or something. :P

yes the motor wouldnt start. Not the outcome I was looking for.

If someone who has a list of what parts I will need it would be great

spope · 31-12-2005, 01:11 AM

Talk to dellboy, he did it and then his car wouldn't start :P
Yes, I know I haven't done it yet, but you need -
Power steering pump + bracket
Alternator + bracket
A/C comp
Harmonic balancer - ef or el will fit, but if you get the el one there shouldn't be the extra gear for the crank sensor
Timing case is optional, you can always just whack a little notch in for the timing.
Belt (obviously)
If you want to keep your current manifold (ie, MPFI) you will need an XH tensioner. Dayco sell them.
If you switch to BBM, you'll need the EL a/c brackets and you can use an EL tensioner.

Hey, if you do it before I do, I'll come give you a hand, so we can see what breaks on your car first! :P

InitialD · 31-12-2005, 01:14 AM

Thanks steven, Just what I wanted to know.

I will be staying MPFI as BBM has no benifits in my car.

NZ · 31-12-2005, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by InitialD

Thanks steven, Just what I wanted to know.

I will be staying MPFI as BBM has no benifits in my car.

BBM is MPFI :alien2:

Racecraft · 31-12-2005, 08:53 AM

talk to OED666 also ,,he did it when he went to the AU engine.. There was some issue with the ED log manifold and the A/C compressor iirc

LUXO_8 · 31-12-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Racecraft

talk to OED666 also ,,he did it when he went to the AU engine.. There was some issue with the ED log manifold and the A/C compressor iirc

yep, this is why you use the XH1 Tensioner...
as they had the 4litre with ED manifold and serpentine belt....

also, i do recall SWOOPA having some isses with AU into Eseries around the ac compressor...
i cant recall what he ended up doing, i think he modified a bracket..?? someone correct me

InitialD · 31-12-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NZ

BBM is MPFI :alien2:

LOL Mr Smartypants I was refering EA/ED MPFI instead of EF/EL BBM

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Gunns · 31-12-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MADNC_8

also, i do recall SWOOPA having some isses with AU into Eseries around the ac compressor...
i cant recall what he ended up doing, i think he modified a bracket..?? someone correct me

That was the dizzy hitting the a/c bracket. Nothing a angle grinder didn't fix.

LUXO_8 · 31-12-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gunns

That was the dizzy hitting the a/c bracket. Nothing a angle grinder didn't fix.

thats right! i knew it was something around there

ilsautomotive · 31-12-2005, 03:02 PM

If you're using the XH tensioner (pre BBM), you will be using the XH belt as well. I bought an AU belt for mine and had to sell it and then buy an XH.

dansedgli · 31-12-2005, 03:22 PM

I think the best option would be to buy a complete EF or EL then swap everything over.

Hope this helps.

Bobman · 31-12-2005, 06:57 PM

XH belt is about $30
You can use an EA or EB compressor if your happy to change the pulley ;)
Or you can just use a EF type one...

Also save some $$ and change the power steering pump pulley (very easy) instead of swapping pumps because you'll have problems with the hoses.

Everything is easy bolt on e.t.c, don't forget all brackets you'll need too, I did it on my EA and it was a fantastic mod.

**ebxr8240** · 01-01-2006, 01:44 AM

We have done it ... An AU engine into EDXR6...Lol....

megsy · 01-01-2006, 12:42 PM

what has to be done to the AC compressor, wrong pully? not in line with everything else? im considering doing this myself in the next month when i put thermos in

Bobman · 01-01-2006, 03:23 PM

You can either get a cheap dodgy EF compressor (as I did) and not hook up the lines, or change the pulley on your EA one which is not really hard just needs to be compressed out. The aircon lines are different IIRC, but you still use your EA plate, not sure what others done here but I went the dodgy way and had no air con