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Lukeyson
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Hi all
I have a question. I have a small 'bracket' that is welded to a cross member on a factory vehicle. See the image below. I want to dremel off this bracket, move it sideways, and then weld it back on. It is folded 3mm metal and I can see that it is only lightly welded into place. This is to fit a FWD Transmission swap (IB5 to MTX75). I am in NSW. I'm new to this and not afraid at having a go. Does anyone know how this is interpreted for Compliance purposes? There would be no cutting or weakening of the actual cross member, and I'm just relocating a factory component. I expect I'd have to have the welds done by a professional as my poke-and-stab splatter welds are not very robust. Luke
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Theres 2 things. Speak to an engineer for their opinion. Or just do it and see if anyone notices come pink slip time. Id probably speak to an engineer first. Ive had a trailer blue slipped before. It wasnt modified, but had it been and they were satisfied theyd just issue a mod plate. Im guessing the same goes for cars done in such a fashion that its all good. The only other hurdle i can see is insurance stuff.
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I went and found this hoping to find you a way out, unfortunately I think the document pretty clearly spells out it does require certification. Though that should be straight foward if you are just simply relocating the existing bracket.
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents...ifications.pdf Quote:
Or you could just do it anyway ![]() .
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I’d go with “just do it anyway”. Looks like a removable subframe.
When I’ve shifted stuff like this I take it for re-welding to a bloke who builds insanely powerful bikes. I trust his knowledge of what makes a good strong fixing point, as a misjudgment in his normal work could be fatal. The intent of the code in a situation like this is to block silly stuff, not carefully planned adjustments... |
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Lukeyson
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Thanks
That looks like the NSW RMS VSI 6 document. You're right in that this tells me what has to be certified versus what doesn't. I've also had a look at the national ADR NCOP (National Cope of Practice) VSB14 guidelines that include a lot more detail. I didn't find specifics of what I was looking for. I thought there might be some things that you just could not do - some things Allan has mentioned on the Skid Factory around steering and engine mounts raised questions for me I was trying to clarify. Questions to a certifier it will have to be. Luke
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Depending how good your welding is, if you do it neatly, then repaint it, and then age it a bit, dirty it up, it would be all but impossible to detect...
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