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07-05-2017, 07:10 PM | #1 | ||
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Hi All,
Has anyone looked into replacing their sync 2 system with a sync 3 to get access to its much faster OS and carplay features? Ive seen them selling in the U.S https://www.infotainment.com/product...sync-3-upgrade Wondering if anyone local does supply and install. thanks |
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07-05-2017, 08:37 PM | #2 | ||
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Saw these and was hopeful but havent seen anyone able to get this working locally...
I'm hopeful on the Everest but not on the Falcon as its more of an orphan in the Ford world...
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07-05-2017, 09:41 PM | #3 | ||
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Was told that the Falcon most closely resembles the Ford Fusion Sync 2 model electrically. Seen some photos online and the modules appear very close in appearance. A very expensive gamble though at 3500 usd for a conversion kit and no guarantee it will work
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07-05-2017, 09:50 PM | #4 | ||
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People are working on it.
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09-05-2017, 08:21 AM | #5 | ||
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sync3 is faster, but that's just about all it's got going for it. The screen configuration is awful, the voice activation is woeful, and the usb connectivity is dire. If you aren't happy with sync2 then I'd suggest go 100% aftermarket
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10-05-2017, 01:57 PM | #6 | ||
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I'd just kill for Android Auto in the G6ET.
The FGX should never have come with Sync 2. it was already outdated when it was released.
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10-05-2017, 05:57 PM | #7 | ||
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Any suggestions on aftermarket?
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18-05-2017, 02:27 AM | #8 | ||
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Comparing a few different sync3 models with the fgx rear, I'd say it would potentially work with some small changes. I hope someone does this soonish.
In SA there are already people who have done FGX dash' into FG mk1 and mk2. I'll be buying an FG mk1 or mk2 soon and hope to do a dash conversion but again a sync3 upgrade too would be ideal as carplay is great. |
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21-05-2017, 07:59 PM | #9 | |||
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I recently helped a friend with this conversion and although 80% of the work has been done there's a few errors on the dash which will be getting fixed within the next week or so. |
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06-02-2018, 08:49 AM | #11 | ||
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In August 2016 I took delivery of my FGX Falcon Cab Chassis. Beaut car and I've had two of them before that. Additional bonus was it came with Sat Nav - Ford Sync 2. At that time I'd only had a Tom Tom stuck on the windscreen so the in car thing was great. However it also came with free updates for the next seven years, but the rub was that was only with a service. Having had a garage for 40 years it isn't in my DNA to get someone else to service my cars, so the free bit wasn't exactly that. Anyway my wife bought a new Hyundai Kona recently and it comes with an Android system so you don't, and can't, actually get it with Sat Nav. At first this seemed a bit of a downer but all you need to do is plug in your phone and you can have Google maps and Waze. Obviously for free. Probably a bit limited to Android Auto but it gave me the idea to look around and I came up with these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3iBSKk72Z4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAS1GMdlbcI (plenty of these around just follow the YouTube paths)
In the end I bought one from http://www.cardvdnavi.com/Ford-SYNC2...roid-Interface This was delivered very quickly and the company was very responsive to my emails, unfortunately I couldn't get the thing to work properly. First they sent me a real 'Plug and Play' unit but a part on the back physically prevented the unit being fitted so they sent me a 'PCB Daughterboard' which overcame that problem. A bit of a job to fit but all the stuff was there, and the good bit was that I could simply switch from the OEM screen to the Android screen. Problem was there was no response to the touch screen on the Android side. So you couldn't actually change anything on the screen. Eventually I was able to change things using a mouse plugged into the USB, but even so could not make the screen responsive to touch. In the middle of all this I saw that the screen on the Android side was very lo-res which wasn't at all what I wanted. The upshot is, that after numerous emails trying to get this sorted my Chinese friends have given up on me and said I can have my money back (not counting my USD45.00 shipping - another story but I'm working on that) Anyway, that's the story, but before I send it back, maybe someone out there has had experience with these, specifically I guess with FGX Falcons as maybe they're different from other Fords in the world? Thanks Grant |
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wouldn't using Android Auto be totally reliant on your Mobile device and plan? whereas SYNC2 systems are free to run and have better GPS coverage
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06-02-2018, 01:07 PM | #13 | |||
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Better GPS coverage? No. All smartphones have GPS too. But Sync has massively outdated maps, like some roads are years out of date. Google maps is updated constantly. And almost everyone has some sort of plan on their phone with data. Anyway, with Sync 3 you aren't forced to use Android Auto or Apple Carplay. Ford just cheaped out putting Sync2 into the FGX. It should never have been done.
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06-02-2018, 05:17 PM | #14 | |||
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It couldn't possibly have made it into the FGX, unless you think Ford should have spent money on updating the FGX infotainment three months before its run was due to end.
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06-02-2018, 05:20 PM | #15 | |||
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06-02-2018, 06:32 PM | #16 | |||
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Ford didn't make it ready for market in Australia until mid 2016. As for optional upgrade, it'll still cost money to engineer it. Sync 2 to Sync 3 isn't just a plug and play software update, I'm told it'll also require a hardware upgrade, so to make it work in an FGX will require engineering expenses, which would be pointless on a discontinuing model.
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06-02-2018, 07:51 PM | #17 | |||
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07-02-2018, 03:29 PM | #18 | ||
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There's a few of us...
There's a video showing sync2 being setup in a dummy dash at broadmeadows and they were making it "australian." That was some time in 2012 iirc. They spent an enormous amount of time on it, I'm not sure people appreciate how big that job was. And I've only seen the video.... Sync3 wasn't an itch in daddy's pants back then. Had an escape as a loaner a few weeks ago. Not sure what all the fuss is about with sync3 to be honest. 3 is higher than 2 I guess.
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07-02-2018, 05:01 PM | #19 | |||
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Besides that, I found it quite useful and Apple Carplay was great. This is coming from a Sync 1 user though, so most things are better than what I got now I guess...
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07-02-2018, 05:11 PM | #20 | ||
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Oh I get why it was used...I think we can all see why.
It's just utterly frustrating such an outdated system was used in the last of the Falcons, and 3 was never offered as an optional update down the track. I know it would meant spending more on a car coming to an end, but ****....it was the last one....make an effort.
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07-02-2018, 05:28 PM | #21 | ||
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It had nothing to do with cost.
It wasn't available.
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07-02-2018, 05:29 PM | #22 | ||
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Yes I know, but it was shortly after release.....they could have offered it as an upgrade. It's not a direct plug and play of course. But there's not a massive amount of change required.
I know plenty who would have paid a lot of money for that upgrade.
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07-02-2018, 05:43 PM | #23 | |||
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If Ford had rushed Sync 3 into the Australian market just so they can put it in FGX, I'm sure people would be whinging about how buggy and unreliable the new infotainment system is ...
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07-02-2018, 09:40 PM | #24 | ||
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Like i said some people don't get it.
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07-02-2018, 10:08 PM | #25 | ||
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Wow, when did this place turn into Reddit
I get it...you're the expert....you know it all....the rest of us are plebs.....
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08-02-2018, 03:56 PM | #26 | ||
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A guy has upgraded his PX2 Ranger Sync 2 to Sync 3. Was plug and play minus the GPS antenna or the digital radio antenna (can't remember which one sorry).
Sync 3 in my Ranger has been excellent, its alot quicker then Sync 2 and the Apple Car Play feature is very handy.
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09-02-2018, 02:43 PM | #27 | ||
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Chill out. Sync 3 was never going to happen. The guys who engineered sync 2 for FGX were finished and moved onto different programs well before the buying public ever touched one. And at that stage Sync 3 didn't exist so you are being ridiculous thinking it ever could have been an option.
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09-02-2018, 02:44 PM | #28 | |||
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Sync 3 is so many times better than Sync 2, that's all. It really let's down the interior of the car. Sync 2 isn't that BAD....it's decent...some people really bag it, but I find it ok. But having used 3....I just really wish it could have somehow made it to the FGX. I'd still happily pay for it to get into my G6ET. The yanks have upgrades working, but not many people over here seem to be working on it, that we know of anyway.
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09-02-2018, 03:28 PM | #29 | |||
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Android auto looks ok but from what i read it was only released mid 2015 and took a while to catch on Personally I'm still pretty happy with my SYNC 2 my maps have been updated so have no issues there. that said I haven't sen sync3 in use. I guess its hard to go backwards one you have experienced it
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09-02-2018, 07:34 PM | #30 | ||
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From a functionality point of view, there's no doubt that Sync 3 is better than Sync 2, by some margin.
But personally, I prefer the 4 quadrant GUI of Sync 2. Sync 3 just looks messy by comparison. Oh well, you can't win them all.
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