High Five To EPA Victoria! "How much" you may ask?!?

[Gunns]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dose

Who here has got a notice, had it cleared and then reverted back to the same setup they had previously? I know I would.

It's just there for the hassle factor, like defect notices. Only some people cop them and either write their cars off or never modify 'em again.

Sundeep

Yep drove to Exhaust Bros and had them fit a standard system they had ripped off a car. Drove up the road and had it tested, drove straight back to Exhaust Bros and had the mine put back on. Just over an hour of my life wasted.

[bArNsY]

Originally Posted by Lumpen Proletariat

So do you still have to pay even if you're found in the right?

If so, has anyone actually challenged that?


Lumpy

Yes, if you get it tested and it is over the limit, it costs another $37 dollars to test it again!

Over $40odd dollars its hardly worth spending thousands over a simple test!
however it could set precedents in the courts if someone won the case

[Lumpen Proletariat]

Originally Posted by bArNsY

Over $40odd dollars its hardly worth spending thousands over a simple test!

However it could set precedents in the courts if someone won the case

Free revenue. Nothing to stop them asking everyone to come in if thats the case.

They have to prove you guilty, you don't have to prove your innocence.

Wouldn't last 5 seconds in court.



Lumpy

[private9]

Originally Posted by Mr. Dose

Who here has got a notice, had it cleared and then reverted back to the same setup they had previously? I know I would.

It's just there for the hassle factor, like defect notices. Only some people cop them and either write their cars off or never modify 'em again.

Sundeep

Yep, that's what I did.

[private9]

Originally Posted by OED666

What sucks though, is the noise limits damn motorbikes get away with. Something thats generally 1/4 of the capacity of our motors, yet twice as loud.

I hope i have luck on my side with my 3" exhaust goes on. If I get done, then on with the turbo to make it quiet.

If I'm not mistaken, the noise of motorbikes is actually allowed as a safety feature - ie you can hear them coming. Anything with a modified exhaust though is definitely illegal.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by private9

If I'm not mistaken, the noise of motorbikes is actually allowed as a safety feature - ie you can hear them coming. Anything with a modified exhaust though is definitely illegal.

Which I agree with, except for some harley's out:

[AUTickford]

Doh, here in wa we dont get that sort of crap, the police only pick on riceburners with sticker catalogues all over the car[bloody riceburners!!!]makes life easier for us aussie car drivers : Also ive found that if u dont drive like a ******** you get left alone

[Hybrid34]

my xr comes with a stock 2.5", and i took 1 resignator out, n i think it might be over,but even still wiht it on would be pushing it

I can understand cars that blaarre out noise from the back, but 95db isn't that loud when you think of it, espeically compared to harlys, n trucks, so why do we have to put up with crap legislated by ****as that sit in officee chairs snobbering to each other about what " " They feel is right (people who regulate laws im talking about).
I just think its stupid and gets my anger up when i hear about things like this, the government should be spending money on better things like fixing transport servies or somthing...

[sexr6tasy]

As the street ford editor said in his column its only going to get worse for modified car owners unless we start to unite and do something there just gonna keep piling on the crap laws. Can anybody sence a need for speed type setup in the future where hardcore modified drivers don't use real license plates, drive unregistered and just never stop for anything i hope not but who knows whats the go ten years from now lol.

Originally Posted by private9

If I'm not mistaken, the noise of motorbikes is actually allowed as a safety feature - ie you can hear them coming. Anything with a modified exhaust though is definitely illegal.

You are mistaken.

According to the 2006 standards in Victoria a stationary bike can make up to:

* Before 1 March 1985 100 dB(A)
* After 1 March 1985 94 dB(A)

Ive got a plate on my bike stating the original decibel level, its on all bikes.

Nuts to that though, Ive got a V twin. Mine is really loud but it seems police dont care as much with bikes. Ive been through heaps of breath testing stations and pulled up beside quite a few cop cars. I ride to work everyday and never had a problem.

Is it safer to have a loud exhaust IMO but its not legally allowed.
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[Ringo]

Used to work with a bloke with Harley Heritage Soft Tail - had a pair of shotgun pipe exhausts (straight through bit of chrome piping from the head to the rear wheel)...this thing was difficult to talk around even at warm idle (but what a wonderful mechanical sound - brup cradup brup cradup brup cradup)

He rolling down the middle of some stationary traffic down to the front of the queue (as you do on a bike) when he realised that the first car in the queue was an unmarked TOG vehicle....he took off on the green light and tried to keep it quiet and pulled off at the first side street and didn't get pulled up.....he thought he may have got away with it - two weeks later here's you noise defect notice.

So he went down to his Harley shop, the mechanics pull the 'legal pipes' off the wall and fit them to the bike, my mate get his bike tested and cleared of the defect, goes back to the harley shop where they refit his shotgun pipes and put their 'legal pipes' back on the wall for the next poor sucker customer who gets pinged...

Guy in the RTA told my mate about how some rookie cop defected a bunch of motobikes without realising they where all coffin cheaters or bandito's or something....so a dozen bikers all rock up the RTA at once, cross their arms and glare at the tester....needless to say they got tested and all passed regardless of what the the reading was!!!

[crannersEL]

Just a quick tech question that relates to this thread and my car....

The exhaust place are going to fit a standard 1.5" muffler to my car, because thats what they think needs to be done. Because my system is 2.5" does this mean then new muffler will be a bottle neck to the exhaust, decreasing its performance?!?

[FRDXR6]

Originally Posted by crannersEL

Just a quick tech question that relates to this thread and my car....

The exhaust place are going to fit a standard 1.5" muffler to my car, because thats what they think needs to be done. Because my system is 2.5" does this mean then new muffler will be a bottle neck to the exhaust, decreasing its performance?!?

It will definantly be a bottleneck, the size of the pipe the gasses need to get through is nearly half the size. How much it affects performance though i dont know.

[bArNsY]

Motorbike are as follows:

Before 1 March 1985 100 dB(A)
After 1 March 1985 94 dB(A)

[GTWHOA]

Originally Posted by crannersEL

Just a quick tech question that relates to this thread and my car....

The exhaust place are going to fit a standard 1.5" muffler to my car, because thats what they think needs to be done. Because my system is 2.5" does this mean then new muffler will be a bottle neck to the exhaust, decreasing its performance?!?

Yeah that will cause a huge restiction its a third of the size. what if you put a few big washers along the exhaust?

[Oo_xrsx_oO]

why fit such a small muffler, the ends will have to be flanged etc and the the restriction on flow this would create would be worse than stock. Best go with your 1st option and have a stock system put on for the test and then swap it back. Don't ruin a good sports exhaust by putting small muffler on it.

[crannersEL]

I guess we will see how it all pans out next Monday when its all worked on...

[crannersEL]

All fixed, tested and passed at 89db!!!

Haha i recken this muffler is louder than the other one and its still goto break in......

Fingers crossed i dont get dicked again :-)

[Polyal]

LOL...nice work. What a pain in the butt.

[bArNsY]

what was the setup you ran to get 89db?

[crannersEL]

Pacies - Highflow Cat - 2.5" system - Tri flow rear muffler - resenator