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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jul 2007
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to the guy that stared this , your a bit of a dick
give the ford mod motor 50 yeard of development and see how much power it makes the ls1 based motor is used in tones of car in the US where it gets deleloped , the ford mod motor we get here is in the F type trucks over there , hence the lack of part for it Vs the part you can get for the ls base motor or even the 4.6l mod motor (mustang) technology is the only way |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: WA, Perth/ Pilbara
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I can't wate to see how everybody's tone change if Ford stick a 6.0ltr DOHC V8 up along side the LS2 , or if the 5.4 Boss in the GT becomes a 320KW engine.
P.S Diesels have been using 4 Valve heads for years behind Push rod engines, i have a neat Photo of a set of V8 Cat heads on my phone. |
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Join Date: May 2005
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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On the LS1 forum guys are complaining that in the city they're VE's are only getting 18-20 litres per 100k's......Thats about right.....My V6 Vz(company car) only gets 13.5 to 14.5 in the city....My custom tuned XR6T was better on fuel than the V6 commy and was good for 310fwkw!!! My 1 and only time at WSID I got a 13.4 et.... I know We're talking V8's here but the new tech XR6T lets you have your cake and eat it too....Performance and economy when you need it!!! Buy buy chev!!! I've also been told by my Holden driving mates that yes the LS1-2 is very light but the bores are so thin that a re-bore is risky!!! Is that true???? Who wants to resleeve a block each rebuild....... As for the BOSS, even the Mustangs have gone back to the 3valve OHC heads....Maybe that's where we get the torque back.....They also have the 5.0 Cammer crate angine....Better bore stroke ratio than 5.4..... |
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White Car Driver
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Melbourne
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Well I have nothing against any type of technology, be it pushrod or Quadcam, but there are a few interesting points made in the first post. I haven't read the rest of the thread though, so if I am responding improperly, please be nice to me.
![]() If the Big LS V8 has more power, more torque, more economy, a nicer note, is less complex, cheaper, easier to work on, has more available parts and will still be good after half a million kilometers, then who really cares what the power per litre is on the engine. You'd be pretty desperate to have to say that your engine is better because it has more power per litre. The sound may not be as important as the other stuff, but I believe is enhances the motoring experience. My $0.02.
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#156 | ||
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Smoking the bags in a Turbo 6-speed ED!
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As mentioned in the first post, power per litre doesn't mean anything.
If a 200kg 2 litre engine makes 200kw and a 100kg 6 litre engine makes 200kg, both having exactly the same external dimensions, which is better? I'd pick the lighter engine any day. Not to mention the fact that a 200kw 2 litre is bound to be highly strung and only good to drive when it is being hammered. Power per litre - who cares? Power per kg, or power per total Volume (ie, the amount of total space the engine takes up in the car, rather than the combined capacity of each cylinder) is a much more important thing. Unfortunately, the LS engines are bloody good (once you stop them using oil and piston slapping etc etc etc) compared to the Boss. Not to say the Boss isn't a good motor, but it is MASSIVE externally, is a smaller capacity INTERNALLY, more complicated and more expensive to modify. Same for the M5 motor. Oh My God that engine is the stuff wet dreams are made of, but it would get toasted by an LS7 for ease of maintenence, cost to build and service, power output, packaging etc etc etc. I don't like them facts, but them's what they are. |
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Canberra Region
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Unlike the Boss which is as big as a 460 ![]() ![]() When engines can now do 250k kms easy if serviced regularly re-boring is irrelevant in this day and age. When was the last time someone with a late model car had to re-bore?
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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I mentioned reboring from a performance point of view...I can't imagine those 9-10sec unopened chevs lasting 250000km's!!!!! |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sydney
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I should probably add I care about 4 things in an engine:
- Power - Fuel Consumption - Driveability - Longetivity. How these are achieved I don't really care, I especially don't care about what actuates the valves...
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#163 | ||
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Location: Adelaide SA
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dumbest.
thread. ever. atleast since the last pushrod vs OHC thread.
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