Ford aims to cut global workforce by 10%

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by mr smith

Proving Ground and Geelong will be gone in 5 years. Design and Broady PD gone in 10. Money they are spending is chicken feed in the big scheme.

If you had any idea what was going on out here you'd look rather stupid for saying that.

And how long do you think Trump will last? No way in hell he gets a second term, if he doesn't get impeached first.

[GASWAGON]

Trump is doing everything he can to bring back more jobs for U.S citizens (jobs that China stole) so they can work and pay taxes to help pay off all that 20 Trillion of debt they owe the Federal Reserve.

China is apparently spending Trillions on a new project called 'Silk Road' which will entail massive new roads and rail lines into many European and Eastern countries and producing very cheap, quality cars and all other sorts of chinese rubbish.

There was an add on t.v last night for some new chinese SUV.....Cant remember the brand name.....No way in hell i would buy one.

BIG things happening.....The massive stimulus and printing of money is out of control!

[Trump]

My concern for Ford locally is based on three pillars:

- They are a one trick pony, and that pony is Ranger. Mustang sales are already showing signs of slowing.
- Ford's Chinese and Indian engineering teams are maturing rapidly. Once they have a few notches on their collective belt, it won't be long before HQ decides that Australian PD is surplus to requirements.
- Broadmeadows is a huge site (44 acres), $2 million per acre is conservative at the moment...

[GASWAGON]

Originally Posted by Trump

My concern for Ford locally is based on three pillars:

- They are a one trick pony, and that pony is Ranger. Mustang sales are already showing signs of slowing.
- Ford's Chinese and Indian engineering teams are maturing rapidly. Once they have a few notches on their collective belt, it won't be long before HQ decides that Australian PD is surplus to requirements.
- Broadmeadows is a huge site (44 acres), $2 million per acre is conservative at the moment...

Oh dear, Ford designed by the Chinese and Indians only because the paychecks are way way cheaper than in the west......Now thats sad!

[Trump]

Originally Posted by CoolBFWagon

Oh dear, Ford designed by the Chinese and Indians only because the paychecks are way way cheaper than in the west......Now thats sad!

To the bean counters, it's this simple:

one Australian engineer @ $100k pa or ten Indian/Chinese blokes for the same amount...

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Trump

My concern for Ford locally is based on three pillars:

- They are a one trick pony, and that pony is Ranger. Mustang sales are already showing signs of slowing.
- Ford's Chinese and Indian engineering teams are maturing rapidly. Once they have a few notches on their collective belt, it won't be long before HQ decides that Australian PD is surplus to requirements.
- Broadmeadows is a huge site (44 acres), $2 million per acre is conservative at the moment...

BS.

The Broadmeadows manufacturing site has nothing to do with PD. PD is 2 rented buildings (not owned by Ford) and the old FoA Head Office building.

Mustang sales have nothing to do with development engineers, the next Gen Mustang is already in development in the US.

Your 'three pillars' are made of custard.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by CoolBFWagon

Oh dear, Ford designed by the Chinese and Indians only because the paychecks are way way cheaper than in the west......Now thats sad!

Will happen for Fords in their markets but will NOT for global programs.

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by CoolBFWagon

Trump is doing everything he can to bring back more jobs for U.S citizens (jobs that China stole) so they can work and pay taxes to help pay off all that 20 Trillion of debt they owe the Federal Reserve.

China is apparently spending Trillions on a new project called 'Silk Road' which will entail massive new roads and rail lines into many European and Eastern countries and producing very cheap, quality cars and all other sorts of chinese rubbish.

There was an add on t.v last night for some new chinese SUV.....Cant remember the brand name.....No way in hell i would buy one.

BIG things happening.....The massive stimulus and printing of money is out of control!

Yep, all this is happening... the two biggest national economies on the planet hand over fist printing currency and flooding the world (and Aussie RE) with it. We are seeing the trade blocs develop now. If you go back and listen to Trump interviews from the 1990s as NAFTA was passed (and Ross Perot, for that matter) he is consistent in his message of value-adding at home leading to increased wealth for a nation.

Oz remains at the end of the world, where will it be when the lines drawn become noticeable? The history is cyclical, it's happened before. Always good to have some domestic self sufficiency capability when this happens.

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by Trump

They are a one trick pony, and that pony is Ranger. Mustang sales are already showing signs of slowing.

ahhh. No.

Ford's Chinese and Indian engineering teams are maturing rapidly.

not even close

Broadmeadows is a huge site (44 acres), $2 million per acre is conservative at the moment...

the factory is filthy. who would buy that and pay to clean it up? the offices are leased

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Trump

My concern for Ford locally is based on three pillars:

- They are a one trick pony, and that pony is Ranger. Mustang sales are already showing signs of slowing.
- Ford's Chinese and Indian engineering teams are maturing rapidly. Once they have a few notches on their collective belt, it won't be long before HQ decides that Australian PD is surplus to requirements.
- Broadmeadows is a huge site (44 acres), $2 million per acre is conservative at the moment...

I guess all those extra programs they been working on...and getting sorta throw one pillar out.

Laugh at Chinese and Indian engineers. They're good for doing work that's time consuming and doesn't really need much knowledge.

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by Trump

My concern for Ford locally is based on three pillars:

- They are a one trick pony, and that pony is Ranger. Mustang sales are already showing signs of slowing.
- Ford's Chinese and Indian engineering teams are maturing rapidly. Once they have a few notches on their collective belt, it won't be long before HQ decides that Australian PD is surplus to requirements.
- Broadmeadows is a huge site (44 acres), $2 million per acre is conservative at the moment...

Future technology requirements for consumers has unfortunately moved faster than what many would otherwise want............ride sharing and not owning a car spring to mind

Cheers Mick

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Laugh at Chinese and Indian engineers. They're good for doing work that's time consuming and doesn't really need much knowledge.

Or insight.

[Trump]

The Nile isn't just a river in Africa as it seems..

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Trump

The Nile isn't just a river in Africa as it seems..

It's a simple fact that the Indian's and Chinese aren't capable of doing the work. And until they are, which may be a decade or 2, then you are being a ****.

No ones saying it will never happen, but until the facilities are available and they have the experience and know how to get the job done ,then it won't change any time soon.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by Trump

The Nile isn't just a river in Africa as it seems..

Simply put, right now and when I say that, i am looking at the medium term China and I guess more so India, simply do not have the capability to accommodate this kind of car engineering. Just working with them on other projects, they're more what we would refer to as hands and feet, requirements are sent to them and they will effectively "construct." That is entirely different to assembly.

It would take a generation or two for this to shift towards India/China, but then why would it? Engineering is not assembly work and the likes of Ford, BMW, Merc, etc. are all at the forefront of the industry, striving to be the best, not like the current crop of Indian and Chinese cars which are effectively copy cats. Why spend the $$ on R&D when someone else will do that?