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Old 02-02-2014, 09:37 PM   #1
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Default AU V8 Coilpack and lead replacement

I want to do the o2s, coils and leads on my AU V8.

What are the best items to fit?

I see MSD make coils and they seem popular, are there problems with the MSD AU items? I know their E series coils are prone to fail.

As for leads, I know top gun and eagle do them. I've been unhappy with the top gun ones in the past, I've had the fat Eagle ones and they seemed much nicer quality.

Just a standard 175kw Ghia, I will be doing bolt ons though and I want quality stuff not rubbish that will fail in a few months.

What are reccomended and what are the best sources?

Thanks Windsor lovers.

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Old 02-02-2014, 09:41 PM   #2
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Ive run MSD coils on 2 AU's and sold probably a dozen more sets with no issues. No hesitation in recommending them.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:46 PM   #3
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Thats good enough for me.

What leads and O2 sensors have you used on your utes?
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Thats good enough for me.

What leads and O2 sensors have you used on your utes?
Top Guns were an experience good enough to make me never recommend or sell them again.

MSD are good but you can't get an 'off the shelf' set - they have to be made. If you want straight out buy and fit I would look at ICE or Eagle.

As for 02's - Bosch ones via Ebay, direct fit 4 wire green connector. Expect to pay about $120 for a pair.
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Default Re: AU V8 Coilpack and lead replacement

I did see o2 on ebay for 40 each. I've used msd coils and msd made up leads via a1 in wa. I just ordered a new set of msd coils from summit cause I sold my last set, no problem recommending them. But won't order leads from them again took 2 sets to get the colour I ordered. Tried summit for a kit to make my own with no luck so ill be going with ice.
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MSD packs with Eagle leads on mine
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I'm making MSD leads to suit AU V8s if you're interested, black only drop me a PM if you'd like a set.
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How much Bottledup? I found a thread about the MSD leads you were making years ago, looks like you had some problems with them? I can't afford to muck around with sending them back etc if the boots are wrong or not crimped right, I need the car.

I've found VDO O2s on ebay, price seems good. Can't see Bosch there, VDO should be good too I'd think?

Am I going to see a difference with the MSD coils for the extra money? Even a slight gain in response/torque/economy would be worth it.

Whoosha I like the Eagle leads normally, looks like I would save about $50 going for NGK ones though. NGK does them with two different styles of boot to suit the Normal/XR8 exhaust manifolds. Tricky thing is I'm planning to fit XR8 manifolds or even aftermarket when I find some. Not sure where that leaves me.
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There was an issue with a group buy conducted through my old work (A1s), both with suppliers failing to provide and a colleague seriously dropping the ball while I was on annual leave.

I'm not doing these in bulk, I keep a box of wire and the required terminals at home and will build sets as required. Hence why I'm only offering black coloured lead, and after several different plug ends being tested I've settled on 115* extreme duty MSD boots on all 8 leads. I've found that these will clear pretty much every head/plug/header combination.

Pricing is $200/set including an Express Post bag Australia wide.
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Dave's leads dropped straight onto my motor, two needed redoing but that is becuase they foul on my AFR 185 Comp heads!
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Sounds good to me, I'll get back to you asap.
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I've found VDO O2s on ebay, price seems good. Can't see Bosch there, VDO should be good too I'd think?
do not buy the vdo ones they are crap, stick to bosch or ngk brands
here are the ones on ebay
genuine bosch
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-BOSCH...28cf28f&_uhb=1

genuine delphi
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GENUINE-D...ba4a1ef&_uhb=1

genuine ntk
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NGK-NTK-O...cf9e285&_uhb=1

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Old 03-02-2014, 08:56 PM   #13
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Whats wrong with them?

At that price I'll go the Bosch anyway, thats bloody cheap. I only searched under V8, thats where I went wrong!
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They are slow to Switch which will not give the EEC accurate Information.
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Alright, excellent info, thanks everyone so much for the help.

MSD coilpacks and leads, Bosch O2s.
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Also PM BOTTLEDUP,

He is the best Parts Guy i know! he can also do some good pricing on parts and doesn't have an attitude like most
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Will do.
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do not buy the vdo ones they are crap, stick to bosch or ngk brands
here are the ones on ebay
genuine bosch
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-BOSCH...28cf28f&_uhb=1

genuine delphi
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GENUINE-D...ba4a1ef&_uhb=1

genuine ntk
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NGK-NTK-O...cf9e285&_uhb=1

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Thanks for that Dean,
I just bought 2 bosch O2 sensors, off the ebay seller you linked as I was waiting for a good excuse ($40 each ) to change them at 140,000 km.
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:56 PM   #19
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I've ordered a pair too, and the MSD Coilpacks.
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Dropped in quick and i see your've got it covered.

MSD coil pacs - Tick
Bottledup MSD leads - Tick
Bosch 02 sensors - Tick
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Bottledups leads are great if you like leads that fall apart and are crimped together with a 10 dollar supercheap crimping tool, absolute junk
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Bottledups leads are great if you like leads that fall apart and are crimped together with a 10 dollar supercheap crimping tool, absolute junk
Who's that clip clopping over your bridge?

Bahahaha, if I've inadvertently sold you some leads, I apologize and request you return them for a refund.
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Dave, I don't think boi had an issue with your work or knew of anyone with alleged issue.........Just had to have one last stab on his way out from the haltech thread.
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No worries Craig, hopefully he can cool off in the kindy sand pit playing Tonka trucks & building bridges.
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I checked out his profile ... He had a history of creating trouble on the forums and had been warned numerous times!!
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The leads fit nicely and feel great. Fast turnaround too. Big thanks to Bottledup.

All the parts are in along with the XR8 snorkel, new air filter and plugs. Also filled it with 98 to see if theres an economy difference.

I drove it about 100kms today. Feels alot nicer. Very reponsive now and the economy was in the 11s after a short freeway run.

It really runs out of puff above about 4K rpm, the next addition will be better headers and exhaust.

Big thanks to all for the advice and help.
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hey fanboi, do not post on here saying what you said, you should have pm dave no wonder your banned go back to your kitty litter you little sook. I've got a set of dave's msd lead's apparently and they are great no issues.

ps. how did you SLO247 got them fitted yet ??

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hey fanboi, do not post on here saying what you said, you should have pm dave no wonder your banned go back to your kitty litter you little sook. I've got a set of dave's msd lead's apparently and they are great no issues.

ps. how did you SLO247 got them fitted yet ??

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Oh i forgot you already posted that you had them fitted
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Well i bought the bosch o2 sensors here http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-BOSCH...28cf28f&_uhb=1

And installed them and then did an ecu reset (disconnect batt for 30 mins while shorting power leads).

When i started the car it ran rough and the auto held on to gears a bit long and i have noticed a rich smell even at idle with higher fuel consumption (i think).
Engine and trans ran smooth after a bit of a drive.

I checked with forscan and i am getting over 2 volt swings from my sensors at idle when at running temp.

I thought they could only generate up to 1 volt?

Wtf?
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Well i bought the bosch o2 sensors here http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-BOSCH...28cf28f&_uhb=1

And installed them and then did an ecu reset (disconnect batt for 30 mins while shorting power leads).

When i started the car it ran rough and the auto held on to gears a bit long and i have noticed a rich smell even at idle with higher fuel consumption (i think).
Engine and trans ran smooth after a bit of a drive.

I checked with forscan and i am getting over 2 volt swings from my sensors at idle when at running temp.

I thought they could only generate up to 1 volt?

Wtf?
that's not good
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