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OFFROAD ART
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: South Australia
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Utah
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waste of time, they won't do it - i would rather see tax kept there and tax incentives on the use of bio-fuels - excise on fossil fuels removed would only delay the inevitable
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Carrum Downs, Victoria
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I will do less than jack s**t
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Perth
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And where do you propose that the government re-coup the lost revenue from petrol sales? Which area of the budget would you cut that kind of expenditure? Our roads are bad enough, hospitals understaffed, police understaffed and underpaid, class sizes too big and resources in schools limited, aged care is a shambles, prisons are over crowded and under staffed, and the list goes on.
Fuel excise is a huge money spinner for the government, they aren't going to give that up for anything! Even if they did, which they wont, but if they did, they either jack up interest rates, or income tax, which would hit everyone hard. Fuel excise is a user pays tax, nice and fair. People know the price of driving, if you cant afford it, buy a bike, or take the bus. Same as people generally whinging about petrol prices. If it's too dear, find an alternative. People whinge, but still fill their car up every week! There is no other options! Streamline your usage and daily tasks the best you can, and cop the rest on the chin like everyone else with a car. |
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LWBforME
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 373
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Just getcha self an LPG conversion and cop the $2000 reward. With a bit of luck you might get out of it for $1800 and you can keep the change!
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Official AFF conservative
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Adelaide, SA
Posts: 3,549
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Where's the petition I sign to prevent the government from intervening????
Or the "theres more important things in life than petrol prices" petition?? Or the "we're running out of oil, why reduce the price and increase the speed at which we use the last of it" petition??
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Melbourne
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gold Coast QLD
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SV6000. Yum
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 846
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Just had a look at the petition then, 25,000 people have left their name.
Unfortunatley some dumb asses thought they could leave their name repeatedly and it would count for more?? Hmm Others made some pretty interesting comments, and some were just GOLD!!! SO I have decided to help these people through their greif and trauma, sorta like a marraige counsellor, but for fuel. Keep reading for more (Please note these comments are not aimed at commenting on a persons situation or status, but rather how they didnt think about what they wrote on the stupid petition) |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Adelaide
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 846
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If you are travelling 70km a day, move. Your right, it is devastating that you no longer eat meat. Is this maybe a reason for your lack of logical thought?? Maybe you should try extending your diet back away from just Vegetables to a little more dairy and meat? Mate, if Johnny up on capital hill quits charging us tax for fuel, your other taxes will go up and there wont be any dole for you to go on and no child carer allowance from the govt for your 10 children PS: Personally i think the OP shop is good place to find a bargain, beats the socks of Target or KMart. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Whoever said that has a point and you will work it out soon enough. :voldar02: |
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Regular Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 260
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petrol prices are here to stay and they will keep rising if u are so unhappy with it sell the car and get a smaller car or public transport or if u love your car so much u will keep paying the petrol no matter what it cost
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: ACT
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: FoMoCo
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Far North Queensland, Australia
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Utah
Posts: 3,479
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Nobody forced you to buy a large 6 cylinder Falcon, get something cheaper to run if it's cutting in to your budget
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Far North Queensland, Australia
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Northern Sydney
Posts: 1,908
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Whinge Whinge Whinge. Everyone gets a say in taxes theoretically every four or so years anyway. Obviously those in the opposition party have some form of background in economics and an overall grasp of Government fund and Government spending. Funny there's no credible second "lets cut the fuel excise" option. Perhaps it's because the taxation system that we have now is for all those things that we take for granted.
If people want to whinge about fuel excise, start a political party and run in the federal elections. You only need a partition of 500 people I believe to form a party (ask Pauline, I believe she'd know), so if these 25,000 signatories are ligitimate, go and knock yourselves out. I can tell you whats going to happen though - absolutely nothing. Don't like the politicians in power or their policies? Vote for the opposition. Opposition no good? Go and run for parliament yourselves. Will you? Hell no, because everyone is gutless. I'm sick to death of whingers out there complaining about the government, politicians and policies. Time some people put their money where their mouth is. And incidently, there was a "cut beer and fuel excise" party running in the last NSW state elections. I believe they didn't win a seat. I wonder why...... Quote:
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 101
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Look i think your all just going a bit overboard i can afford this fuel prices no worries i still think it is a *** load of ***** and i believe it needs to be re-assessed i think the rest of the population would agree that this is ridiculous and just stupid.! I reckon we should stop exporting and paying 10 times as much per barrel and start our own refineries and make other countries buy it off us.. It's a dog eat dog world out their and the pussy's just get fkd over! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! my 2c's
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Regular Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 101
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oh and 1 more beer prices went up again $43 a slab of vb's and their the worst beer possible.! gime a good ol crowny or becks anyday! for $80 a slab :'(
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Perth
Posts: 1,557
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Dude i dont live in town. Live out of town a fair bit. And i know that 1 of the things that goes with living out of town is the fact that i spend a hell of a lot more on fuel than most that live in town. As stated above, we spend somewhere in the vicinity of $20k per year on fuel, between me and the missus. How do you think a 30% increase in the average fuel prices affect me compared to someone spending $40 per week on fuel who lives in the city? A 30% increase for them is minimal, a 30% increase for me is huge! But i know my options, if i want to keep going how i am i pay the price, or i cat back on travel and seriously consider where i drive and if its necessity, or i move into town and put the extra money saved on fuel into a more expensive piece of real estate anyway. I choose to cop it on the chin and keep going the way i am. And you mention moving out or dropping your studies? All because of petrol? I know it's tough, but if you see your uni course as something thats necessary for your future progression in life and to where you ultimately want to be, that should be whats dictating your direction, not rising fuel prices. You should do what you need to to get through uni, not throw it away because the price of crude continues to rise. I think people need to be realistic and see that this is where we are at, fuel prices are never going to drop back to previous levels, no matter how much hoping and dreaming anyone does. You look at the price of driving, and determine if you can afford it or not. If not, then time to look at alternatives. I'm not going to sell my car thats for sure, or stop riding my motorbike. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Guildford, NSW
Posts: 683
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I will sign. It makes me laugh how everyone complains about increases in petrol, but when someone comes up with an idea that may or may not work we all have reasons why someone is trying to do something is wasting their time.
The government is double-dipping after all. They also get a lot more taxes from just about everything you eat, drink or just buy. :alien2:
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Location: Utah
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Far North Queensland, Australia
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: newcastle
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yea yea everyones a whinger and noone wants to do nothing about it. pauline hanson tried didnt she and what happened to her all the poli's get together and screw her over and off to jail pauline, who'd wanna try? if the fuel excise was to "dissappear" how are the governments to recover that loss? im sure not one politician would put their hand up and surrender their fuel card or suffer reduction in expenses and salary yea right! But im sure if politicians were paid as much as everyone else they wouldnt be politicians, so what do you? deal with it? whinge? or maybe if this petition can get enough numbers and support maybe someone will put their hand up and take the fight to the polls. i dont know i can only think that Australians can only be pushed so far.
What i love most about our contradicting government is that they announce $2000 packages for gas conversion since it does only cost 40% of fuel pw and turns around the next day and says gas could soon cost as much as petrol. Are we fools to sit and listen to this cueball or is there no other way |
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tommoxr6
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: newcastle
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wrong thread dudes sorry
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: FoMoCo
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