When is the next XR update due?

VZSS250 · 14-04-2005, 02:50 PM

Hi people,

I won a VZ SS and it is a real thumper of a car...BUT I'd love an XR8 ute to park next to it.

When is the next XR updtae due? It seems the BA has been around forever. Any clues?

Kryton · 14-04-2005, 02:54 PM

next year?
still got to get MK3 out yet.

GlennBA · 14-04-2005, 07:52 PM

september isn't it?

MrSparkle · 14-04-2005, 07:59 PM

MK3 out October in time for Sydney Motor show, all-new model probably late 07 would be my guess.

Chucky · 14-04-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSparkle

MK3 out October in time for Sydney Motor show, all-new model probably late 07 would be my guess.

Correct o'Sparkly one!

Expect some pretty neat-o updates too.. Copperhead seems to be a slight corker...

**M&Ms** · 14-04-2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by VZSS250

Hi people,

I won a VZ SS and it is a real thumper of a car...BUT I'd love an XR8 ute to park next to it.

When is the next XR updtae due? It seems the BA has been around forever. Any clues?

Did you say you WON it???

Kryton · 14-04-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by micmansour

Did you say you WON it???

if thats that raffle i went in, you better watch out.

out:

b2tf · 14-04-2005, 09:06 PM

i dare say its "own" misspelt.

5speedeb · 14-04-2005, 09:19 PM

silly question but whats going to be different for the MK3 model

**M&Ms** · 14-04-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by freddys

silly question but whats going to be different for the MK3 model

6-SPEED AUTO !!!!!

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VZSS250 · 15-04-2005, 12:01 PM

sorry guys, meant "own". Geez I cacked myself when i saw that.

5speedeb · 15-04-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by micmansour

6-SPEED AUTO !!!!!

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is that on all models?

rob_o · 15-04-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by freddys

is that on all models?

Probably only on the XR series and Fairmont Ghia. Apparently the 6 speed costs a lot of money compared to the current 4-speed.

Chucky · 15-04-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by micmansour

6-SPEED AUTO !!!!!

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Engine upgrades should be interesting too..

rdomain · 16-04-2005, 05:40 PM

Man it makes me cringe sometimes when ya read whats in the next upgrade when you're waiting for your brand new xr mkII you just bought.

: This is always going to happen though so this can't be avoided.

What would be the main advantage having a 6 speed as opposed to a 4 speed auto? Fuel economy? Utilise the engine power more efficiently? And if the 6spd auto does cost alot more, will there be a price increase in the mkIII?

csv8 · 16-04-2005, 10:45 PM

V12 from Jaguar in the LTD?

16-04-2005, 11:03 PM

I don't think there will be a V10-powered Ford or Holden ever...

And I just can't wait for the 6-speed auto... more reasons to be lazy and buy a bloody auto!!! :angry:

5speedeb · 17-04-2005, 12:30 AM

people are saying power upgrade how much are they going to upgrade it by if they do

XR Martin · 17-04-2005, 01:56 AM

Jaguar doesnt have a V12.

phillyc · 17-04-2005, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rdomain

What would be the main advantage having a 6 speed as opposed to a 4 speed auto? Fuel economy? Utilise the engine power more efficiently? And if the 6spd auto does cost alot more, will there be a price increase in the mkIII?

Firstly according to this Months motor, the ZF 6spd is 70% more expensive than the 4spd. So i'd figure on $1000 more. But to keep market share i'm not so sure all that will be passed on. The Territory would also benefit immensely.

Mercedes used this gearbox in the E-class and stated a 7% increase in economy over their already good 5spd. Up to 15% improvement would have to be on the cards going from current auto around town. And probably up to 10% highway.

This will be great for the Territory too!!! They will act quick on this one.

The gearbox weighs 10kg less than the current model.

Acceleration could be drastically ehanced due to the gear ratios. First could reach 50kmh versus 84kmh now @6000rpm.

Gear ZF6spd BTR4spd
1st: 4.17 2.50
2nd: 2.34 1.49
3rd: 1.52 1.00
4th: 1.14 0.68
5th: 0.87
6th: 0.69

A huge advantage is the strength and durability of the gearbox. From memory I believe it can take 700Nm and 7000rpm. Thats 510kW capability. Yeeha!

Personally i reckon the 5.4 Boss is a good motor. But, it involves weight and dynamic compromises. I believe the 4.6 DOHC would be a much better outcome. The slightly lesser torque compared with its big brother is less an issue with 6spds!! Supercharge it for FPV models if need be.

I also hope the next Falcon (due mid 2007) is reduced in size/length a little. Maybe 150mm shorter. And goes to the fitness factory to lose the excess kilos. Give it alloy blocks, suspension and more hydroformed panels. Become a leader in this regard. I want to see the weight back under 1550kg for XT.

Dez · 17-04-2005, 02:59 AM

will the 6 speed come with the tip tronic like the current 4spd?

that'd be fun

**M&Ms** · 17-04-2005, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dez

will the 6 speed come with the tip tronic like the current 4spd?

that'd be fun

I hope it does and it doesnt come with those stupid tiny paddles the sv6 has behind the steering wheel, but has the lever like it does now. Here's also hoping they keep the shift pattern the same: up means down, down means up.

Dez · 17-04-2005, 03:40 AM

yeah for sure. it'd be weird if it wasn't like that....up = up down = down just wouldnt feel right :s